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igf1-DES vs. igf1-R3

jared530

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Whats the difference? I know DES is significantly more anabolic than igf1, but the half life is only a few minutes. igf1-R3 has a longer half life but is less anabolic?
 

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Also seems to do well for site growth
IGF-DES short life possible very short(still researching with endo's and PDF's) Also seems to do well for site growth even though bros subq systematic might be just as effective it's all research really.
however it's been stated 5x times stronger I love it! especially(PP!)

igf1-R3 Much longer half life, I seem to tighten up really well on this and my endurance is (was)really good I think it could do really well in PCT my opinion but it needs to be run for long periods of time to see muscle growth(again my opinion)
Hope it helps check out PP sales on both of these items
 

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thanks! Yea i was hoping to come to a consensus on which product to buy from PP since their sale ends tonight.

I might just buy both and see which ones I like. (both buy one get 1 free by the way!)

Also would it be ok for a 21yo to be injecting this?
 

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Ive also been reading about this "perma-gut" where your intestines will grow later down the road after your IGF cycle.

Would DES eliminate the chance of this perma-gut since the half life is ~20min? And would perma-gut also be eliminated if I injected IM opposed to SubQ, since subQ would cause the igf to circulate the blood stream therefore growing everything. ?
 

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thanks! Yea i was hoping to come to a consensus on which product to buy from PP since their sale ends tonight.

I might just buy both and see which ones I like. (both buy one get 1 free by the way!)

Also would it be ok for a 21yo to be injecting this?

I can't tell you to inject anything stuff is strictly research purposes only, how you conduct youe own research is your bidness!;)
 

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I can't tell you to inject anything stuff is strictly research purposes only, how you conduct youe own research is your bidness!;)

we dont give a shit dude we talk about injects AAS and we cant talk about injecting peptides :banghead:
 

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Are subjects using multiple injections per day bc of the short half life
 

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Movin W I use DES 3 x a day. Usually 20mcg each time. 3 times day seems to be the normal schedule
 

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