Injectable Lasix

[kotter716]

I know I don't post on here very often, but I do love scrolling through the forums and reading what people have to say and learning from them as well as the great inside info from BIG A dishes out, but I'm curious about something....does anyone know of a good online pharmacy or a sponsor that sells injectable lasix and has good turnaround (like seven days) I live in the western US? I was reading the forum link that BIG A had sent out in that sponsorship message from Synthek (sp?) and he had told someone about using injectable lasix to get rid of water retention from cortisol (sp?). I would like to use the injectable because it is a better way to control how much you put in you and I want to make sure I have as much control as possible with such a dangerous yet effective item. Please PM me if you do know of a reputable place and I greatly appreciate it to those that help.

 

[Medic08]

You have to use it IV so if you wanna go that route then alright. Also it's twice as strong as pill form so watch your dose. Honestly I couldn't tell you how to use it for BB purposes, but I give it all the time on the ambulance. Pill form
should be sufficient for your goals. I just wouldn't wanna be tearing my veins up like that..... But then again I wouldn't do a lot of things that guys are doing.

 

[Bigcheese]

You have to use it IV so if you wanna go that route then alright. Also it's twice as strong as pill form so watch your dose. Honestly I couldn't tell you how to use it for BB purposes, but I give it all the time on the ambulance. Pill form
should be sufficient for your goals. I just wouldn't wanna be tearing my veins up like that..... But then again I wouldn't do a lot of things that guys are doing.

With all due respect , that is incorrect. Lasix can be given IM just like gear. I have given Lasix IM to patients many times per a doctors orders. The goal is to remove excess fluid so youwould use it the same in a bodybuilding setting as you would any other. I would only recommend a one time dose. If youstart using it regularly then you will have to supplement with Potassium along with it.
BC

 

[Medic08]

I got no problem admitting I'm wrong, I just really did not know that it could be given IM. Thanks for the correction and for teaching me something new.... All the litature I've read I never seen lasix could be given IM. Thanks BC, seriously.

 

[FIRE0808]

Pill from would be much more recommended. You can adjust the dosage. Injectable Lasix is something you dont wanna mess with especially if its your first time using it.

 

[Bigcheese]

Thanks BC, seriously.

No worries Mate. Thats why we are ALL here.

BC

 

[kotter716]

I really do appreciate the input and info guys I did want to only run it at 20mg in a one time IM shot. I will not go over 20mg because of its strength. I definitely respect it. What is the pill mg equivilant if the injectable is much stronger? I'm looking for a place to get it from at the moment so if anyone can help me with that i'd really appreciate it a lot. Thanks guys.

 

[FIRE0808]

Usually it came in 20 or 40 mg per tab. Will PM you on where to get it.

 

[ronnie0072]

so what sponsor has it? I'd like to grab some.

 

[Emery]

Not trying to argue but in my several years working in a hospital I always gave Lasix IV or in pill form.

You better watch your potassium levels bro. Lasix will cause a decrease in potassium, which could cause some cardiac disturbances big time!

IV of course is the most efficient way to give the drug but once you put it in, it's in and working. I always cringe when I hear about people messing with this drug because I have seen what happens when potassium levels plummet and without lab work, how do you know what you are doing?

 

[Medic08]

Not trying to argue but in my several years working in a hospital I always gave Lasix IV or in pill form.

Yea that was I was saying too. NEVER heard it given IM, but if it's true then I guess it's true.

 

[Emery]

Yea that was I was saying too. NEVER heard it given IM, but if it's true then I guess it's true.

My wife is also a nurse (BSN) and has been at a large hospital for 9 years and never given lasix this way. She worked on a cardiac step down unit for 4 years, NICU, and surgery!

I worked ICU, med-surg and ER. Never gave it IM!

Some docs do shit different though. I think Lasix can be pretty hard on tissue though so not sure how that works! I was thinking it actually can cause some necrosis in an infiltrated IV site. Could be wrong though.

 

[kotter716]

thank you everyone for the input and suggestions and especially the concern. I will definitely take a high dose of potassium prior to taking it and after as well. Any suggestions as to which would be better timing to take the potassium? Also what do you suggest dosage wise to make sure i'm not affected too much or if at all? I only planned on taking a 20mg tab (since IM sounds like its not a favorable way to administer) and then POSSIBLY taking another one a few hours later depending on feel. Any suggestions or thoughts on that train of thought? Once again thank you everyone, especially those who have used it or have been in the medical field and have experience administering it.

 

[maldorf]

I got no problem admitting I'm wrong, I just really did not know that it could be given IM. Thanks for the correction and for teaching me something new.... All the litature I've read I never seen lasix could be given IM. Thanks BC, seriously.

News to me too. I know one guy personally that told me he used to run lasix IV right before contests. Maybe the IM injections are hard to get ahold of? I suppose someone could just take the lasix and load it into a syringe.

 

[maldorf]

My wife is also a nurse (BSN) and has been at a large hospital for 9 years and never given lasix this way. She worked on a cardiac step down unit for 4 years, NICU, and surgery!

I worked ICU, med-surg and ER. Never gave it IM!

Some docs do shit different though. I think Lasix can be pretty hard on tissue though so not sure how that works! I was thinking it actually can cause some necrosis in an infiltrated IV site. Could be wrong though.

I had that with a drug I was given IV in the hospital. I forget what it was called, but it was an anti arrythmia drug. My whole arm got really painful and turned red. Felt hot to the touch, etc. Bad reaction. they had to take me off it. they even documented its appearance daily with pictures. I think they were scared of a lawsuit or something.

 

[npcout]

Im a bsn rn, I know Lasix in hospitals is given IV or PO, typically IV from what I do, but being a bodybuilder also, I know its shot IM as well.

From what I've been told, IM causing tissue damage, reason why its not given IM in the hospitals. Most pts I give it to are in fluid overload from heart failure and need it everyday in combination with aldactone to control K levels, thats why its not give IM to them becuase everyday would damage tissue so much.

Bodybuilding using it for 2 days for contest prep, you'll b fine IMO i would assume.

OP, why not use thiazides, they will get the job done.

 

[kotter716]

Im a bsn rn, I know Lasix in hospitals is given IV or PO, typically IV from what I do, but being a bodybuilder also, I know its shot IM as well.

From what I've been told, IM causing tissue damage, reason why its not given IM in the hospitals. Most pts I give it to are in fluid overload from heart failure and need it everyday in combination with aldactone to control K levels, thats why its not give IM to them becuase everyday would damage tissue so much.

Bodybuilding using it for 2 days for contest prep, you'll b fine IMO i would assume.

OP, why not use thiazides, they will get the job done.

Care to elaborate a bit on them? what they are? how to take them? where to get them? I'm going to do a search myself but i'd like to hear your thoughts and knowledge about them as well. Thank you.

 

[Big A]

Real world bodybuilding use - oral Lasix is down right dangerous as it is very uncontrollable due to release times.
IM is the common way of using it.
Once you inject it, it starts working within 10 min and it stops 30-40min later. Perfectly controllable. You can do it IV, but most (99%) don't bother.

When you inject the lasix, you lose the water from the vascular system, then the muscle, then SQ. You look at yourself after the first shot stopped working and decide whether you need another one.
After you stopped using it, the body rebounds and the water comes back in the vascular system, then the muscles and then under the skin.
You want to walk on stage after the water comes back in the veins and muscles and before it comes back under the skin.
Lasix inj is the only diuretic that allows you perfect timing. And because of this, it's the safest to use as there will be no surprises.

 

[kotter716]

Real world bodybuilding use - oral Lasix is down right dangerous as it is very uncontrollable due to release times.
IM is the common way of using it.
Once you inject it, it starts working within 10 min and it stops 30-40min later. Perfectly controllable. You can do it IV, but most (99%) don't bother.

When you inject the lasix, you lose the water from the vascular system, then the muscle, then SQ. You look at yourself after the first shot stopped working and decide whether you need another one.
After you stopped using it, the body rebounds and the water comes back in the vascular system, then the muscles and then under the skin.
You want to walk on stage after the water comes back in the veins and muscles and before it comes back under the skin.
Lasix inj is the only diuretic that allows you perfect timing. And because of this, it's the safest to use as there will be no surprises.

Thank you sir for that!!! How long after you've stopped using it does the body rebound? Also if you could PM me with a place that you recommend me purchasing it from that has a fast turnaround i'd greatly appreciate that. Great info as always BIG A

 

[Big A]

How long after you've stopped using it does the body rebound?

That's individual, that's why you have to experiment way before your show.

I don't know who sells it. I get mine on script.