Bro, the price from a certain sponsor here for the kigs is excellent! And the guy clearly stated it was his first time with gh, so he is just sensitive. It wouldnt matter what brand he was using. I personally luv the kigs there my favorite gh and I've tried them all over the past 8-9 months. Dont get me wrong the rips are good to Im just sold on the kigs the quality is top notch, and the price is excellent. And my results have been outstanding!