I agree but at the same time I believe that mast plus test is kinda like 1+1=2.5.
I remember tenny explaining it well. He said he would never run test without mast
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Maybe i am just confused but I thought the consensus was that Mast DOESN'T have good lean tissue building effects....it's more of a LOOK and FEEL drug.
Seems most of the fans like the hardness as well as the ON/libido feeling.
So, from what I'm reading, the overall consensus is that mast does have SOME worthwhile lean tissue building effects?
Optimum dosage for most to experience these effects?
Maybe i am just confused but I thought the consensus was that Mast DOESN'T have good lean tissue building effects....it's more of a LOOK and FEEL drug.
Seems most of the fans like the hardness as well as the ON/libido feeling.
Perfect combo is TPP/NPP with mast and tbol!
I know I am in the minority here but I don't think it's that necessary. I don't really see that much of a difference whether I run mast with tren or without. If someone is competing, I understand. But for non competitors, I don't know, never found it worth it.
"DHT increases love handle fat, estrogen increases stomach/leg fat. One is androgen pattern fat, one is estrogen pattern fat."
I'm familiar with a lot of what you're saying as far as available research goes, but that's why I start these "experience/opinion" threads. I's good to get some anecdotal feedback since the research doesn't always tell all.
I've never personally noticed a DHT deriv like masteron, proviron, winstrol or oxandrolone increasing lower back/love handle fat or making it harder to lose that fat when dieting. Almost everyone I've spoken with (also factoring in my own experience) has noticed these compounds favorably influence their ability to lose stubborn fat.
I agree but at the same time I believe that mast plus test is kinda like 1+1=2.5.
I remember tenny explaining it well. He said he would never run test without mast
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I think androgens generally increase fatloss somewhat (indirectly by increasing metabolism, probably just be increasing resting heartrate).
I only think androgens increase "androgen pattern fat" IF you are actively gaining bodyfat while using them.
Masteron is nice precontest because it is stronger than primo, and it gives that hard, grainy look (if bodyfat is already low enough) without being 17 alkylated (unlike winny and var). Of course you could just run winny for the last 2 weeks before contest for the same effect, probably not too bad, unless you are also running drol in the last 2 weeks for fullness, then you would want to minimize the other 17-alkylateds.
if u love wasting money and have nothing else to do its a great drug to do. Its kind of like being in the line at the super market and saying to ur self, hey i got money, hey look candy bars are yummy, hey lets buy some and eat them because we dont care about what they do for us or against us masteron is seriously amateur hour bro, even pathetically useless gear like anavar has health benefits to AIDS victims and Burn Victims, I have never once heard a legit NEED to use masteron from anyone on planet earth.