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This is a continuation of discussion posted on:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=348630#post348630
The cycle, consisting of MGF Peg 2mg and IGF3R 1mg, was administered exactly for 1 month. MGF was shot within 15 minutes post-workout. The 15 minute delay was intentional to allow body’s natural MGF to exert its effort. IGF was chased within 3-5 days on the same body part. IGF application was not constrained to a specific time of the day. Subject worked out three times a week
– Legs (day 1) – injected part calves
– Chest/shoulders/triceps (day 3) – injected part shoulders
– Back/biceps/forearms/abs (day 5) – injected parts forearms/biceps
Peptide administration was focused on ‘ends’ of body parts and was consistently maintained thought the cycle. ‘Ends’ refer specifically to calves, shoulders, and forearms/biceps in relation to the stated workout. The intent was to maximize uptake and efficiently supply to the proximity muscle groups worked out w/o incurring unnecessary spillage to unneeded parts. Cycle lasted one month and administered as a PCT after a mild-moderate test/primo/dbol cycle. Aromasin was administered daily to check estrogen levels and water weight.
All body weight measurements were taken at the same time in the morning after stool and before ingesting food. At start of cycle, subject was measured at 185 lbs with 12% body fat. Subject typically shed 5 lbs of water weight within 2 weeks of PCT as recorded in recent past cycles; owing primarily to water weight loss that is accumulated by dbol use. Starting dry weight would therefore technically be marked at 180 lbs. At end of cycle, the subject’s dry weight was 184 lbs at 10% body fat. This represents an increase of 4-7 lbs of dry body weight within a month while on PCT when administering the staggered MGF-IGF cycle.
It is hard to conclude that the net effect of a short 1 month staggered cycle is as dramatic as stated - yet the numbers are difficult to overlook. In my perspective they should be viewed as one data point in assessing the effectiveness of such a regiment. Clearly, more cycles, are warranted to validate effectiveness. Grunt I believe concluded elsewhere that folks who have been using AAS for quite sometime expeirence dramatic growth as new fibers, not prevously available, are infused by the peptides to elevate growth. This is a credible conclusion, though it possibly also applies to those people who haven't been on AAS long, but maxed their potential. The discussed subject has adminstered AAS for less than 8 months in 6-8 week cycles followed by 3-4 week PCT.
Symptoms:
- For first two weeks, subject got ripped fairly quickly. This is thought to be in part due to the continuing effect of primo and shedding of water from test/dbol while on aromasin. Though, others have noticed similar ripping effect with usage of other types of AAS.
- No muscle arresting effect experienced during workouts that is sometimes communicated by users who apply MGF 24 hrs before working the body part. Also no hypoglycemia experienced that is sometimes associated with applying IGF post work out.
- Worked-out parts felt ‘tight’ as though filled with fibers, but not necessarily pumped as is described by some on a peptide regime. As such, flexing muscles felt like you can feel the fibers in the muscle. Also a pleasant feeling typical when healing well from a wound was noticeable from the MGF.
- Since peptides do not suppress cortisol as does AAS, hard training did lead to some post-workout malaise.
- Lethargy did take place due to the use of IGF. This sometimes assisted with sleep. Insulin sensitivity seemed heightened and may be a contributing factor in the lethargy experienced. Meaning, after a heavy meal or a meal with high glycemic carbs, your body’s own insulin and subsequent lethargy increased significantly more than otherwise would. This, of course, is speculated and not validated.
- Strength during workouts increased well during the cycle, though my conclusion is that it is due to the combined residual effect of AAS and peptide usage. Notably, strength increase was more rapid than just on AAS. Subject’s squat weight increased 20% to 290lbs. This was a record milestone for the subject. However, strength stabilized after third week and regressed slightly thereafter.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=348630#post348630
The cycle, consisting of MGF Peg 2mg and IGF3R 1mg, was administered exactly for 1 month. MGF was shot within 15 minutes post-workout. The 15 minute delay was intentional to allow body’s natural MGF to exert its effort. IGF was chased within 3-5 days on the same body part. IGF application was not constrained to a specific time of the day. Subject worked out three times a week
– Legs (day 1) – injected part calves
– Chest/shoulders/triceps (day 3) – injected part shoulders
– Back/biceps/forearms/abs (day 5) – injected parts forearms/biceps
Peptide administration was focused on ‘ends’ of body parts and was consistently maintained thought the cycle. ‘Ends’ refer specifically to calves, shoulders, and forearms/biceps in relation to the stated workout. The intent was to maximize uptake and efficiently supply to the proximity muscle groups worked out w/o incurring unnecessary spillage to unneeded parts. Cycle lasted one month and administered as a PCT after a mild-moderate test/primo/dbol cycle. Aromasin was administered daily to check estrogen levels and water weight.
All body weight measurements were taken at the same time in the morning after stool and before ingesting food. At start of cycle, subject was measured at 185 lbs with 12% body fat. Subject typically shed 5 lbs of water weight within 2 weeks of PCT as recorded in recent past cycles; owing primarily to water weight loss that is accumulated by dbol use. Starting dry weight would therefore technically be marked at 180 lbs. At end of cycle, the subject’s dry weight was 184 lbs at 10% body fat. This represents an increase of 4-7 lbs of dry body weight within a month while on PCT when administering the staggered MGF-IGF cycle.
It is hard to conclude that the net effect of a short 1 month staggered cycle is as dramatic as stated - yet the numbers are difficult to overlook. In my perspective they should be viewed as one data point in assessing the effectiveness of such a regiment. Clearly, more cycles, are warranted to validate effectiveness. Grunt I believe concluded elsewhere that folks who have been using AAS for quite sometime expeirence dramatic growth as new fibers, not prevously available, are infused by the peptides to elevate growth. This is a credible conclusion, though it possibly also applies to those people who haven't been on AAS long, but maxed their potential. The discussed subject has adminstered AAS for less than 8 months in 6-8 week cycles followed by 3-4 week PCT.
Symptoms:
- For first two weeks, subject got ripped fairly quickly. This is thought to be in part due to the continuing effect of primo and shedding of water from test/dbol while on aromasin. Though, others have noticed similar ripping effect with usage of other types of AAS.
- No muscle arresting effect experienced during workouts that is sometimes communicated by users who apply MGF 24 hrs before working the body part. Also no hypoglycemia experienced that is sometimes associated with applying IGF post work out.
- Worked-out parts felt ‘tight’ as though filled with fibers, but not necessarily pumped as is described by some on a peptide regime. As such, flexing muscles felt like you can feel the fibers in the muscle. Also a pleasant feeling typical when healing well from a wound was noticeable from the MGF.
- Since peptides do not suppress cortisol as does AAS, hard training did lead to some post-workout malaise.
- Lethargy did take place due to the use of IGF. This sometimes assisted with sleep. Insulin sensitivity seemed heightened and may be a contributing factor in the lethargy experienced. Meaning, after a heavy meal or a meal with high glycemic carbs, your body’s own insulin and subsequent lethargy increased significantly more than otherwise would. This, of course, is speculated and not validated.
- Strength during workouts increased well during the cycle, though my conclusion is that it is due to the combined residual effect of AAS and peptide usage. Notably, strength increase was more rapid than just on AAS. Subject’s squat weight increased 20% to 290lbs. This was a record milestone for the subject. However, strength stabilized after third week and regressed slightly thereafter.
