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Myostatin Propeptide?? vets and dat help please.

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anyone have any info on this? I have been searching all over and can find very little info on how you use it, and practically none on use in humans. propeptides has it for sale and it says run 100mcg a day. Lets say one could afford to run it for a few months ED. how would be the best way to take it? benefits? side effects?

any knowledge would be appreciated

here is what im talking about
Myostatin Propeptide Purepeptides
 
never heard of it but i would do alot of research before i attempted to block my myostatin.
 
I saw that and heard a radio show about it. To damn pricey for me though.
 
$770 for 10days worth. WOW. Id rather run 50+iu's of GH a day ;) Let us know how it goes though.
 
$770 for 10days worth. WOW. Id rather run 50+iu's of GH a day ;) Let us know how it goes though.


Amen on that...hell with that price i would rather get quality schering testovirons from Spain and run 10ius of Pharm Gh along with a combo of cjc-1295 and ghrp-6 daily..
 
$770 for 10days worth. WOW. Id rather run 50+iu's of GH a day ;) Let us know how it goes though.

and how long is 10 days going to inhibit your myostatin? long enough to actually do any good? to long that you cant control it? i thought controling it was the big problem with blocking or inhibiting?
 
guy was planning on running it 100 days. not 10. 100mcg a day. stacked with gh slin and test...obviously it is a big investment and doesn't want to just waste that type of money for nothing. So just trying to find out some info for him.
 
its very new i think he may have to be the one to give us some feedback. in 25 or 50 then 100 days.:D and is 1mg 100 days worth? 1mg 100mcg = 10 days? lot of cash 10X770. does it have to daily injections or only eod?
 
IMO, controlling serum Myo levels via increased Follistatin, Myo Propeptide, various GDF-8 antibodies, is transitory at best, without consideration of the degree of what the total end result may be from the dosages used.

My point is that once homeostasis returns myo serum levels back to normal, unless you are on some other cycle or adequate hrt lifestyle, your results will not be mainained. You would need to be on a permanent replacement therapy of these compounds per se, unless you opt for the viral vector route using DNA/RNA gene scilencing.

This is the reason most are interested in duplication the mechanisms involved in Myo DNA mutations (Myo Gene deficiencies). Black747 has used more myo related compounds than anyone else I know.

He started years back with custom anti GDF-8 antibodies, then a pegylated version of the same antibody for similar systemic control of Myo levels.
He moved on eventually to hush 29mer Myo shRNA which was also futile.
He was not using the efficacy of viral vectors used in studies, relying more on other transfection regeants for the custom plasmid constructs. It was trial and error.
He is currently working on more research into other regeants and plans to keep trying to find the "magic bullet" in this area of interest to him.

Anyhow I digress, and just wanted to point out that IMO, systemic control of serum Myo is not worth the price, especially since this can already be achieved via AAS. I am not even discussing the potential health negatives of Myo alteration either.

So, for someone as dedicated to this as Black747 is, going the gene silencing route is a more fruitful direction. Reduction in Myo needs to be drastic and needs to be long term. I mean loooong, like typical growth factors require before manifestation of disernible results are realized. The kind of levels/duration in myo deficiency observed for years during ones growth phase, or years one might need to have myo silenced via gene therapy.

10 days or 100 days or even one year would not be worth the price of "continual use" method for this area IMO. But if you have ALL the money in the world, this may be a different viewpoint as well. ;)
 
IMO, controlling serum Myo levels via increased Follistatin, Myo Propeptide, various GDF-8 antibodies, is transitory at best, without consideration of the degree of what the total end result may be from the dosages used.

My point is that once homeostasis returns myo serum levels back to normal, unless you are on some other cycle or adequate hrt lifestyle, your results will not be mainained. You would need to be on a permanent replacement therapy of these compounds per se, unless you opt for the viral vector route using DNA/RNA gene scilencing.

This is the reason most are interested in duplication the mechanisms involved in Myo DNA mutations (Myo Gene deficiencies). Black747 has used more myo related compounds than anyone else I know.

He started years back with custom anti GDF-8 antibodies, then a pegylated version of the same antibody for similar systemic control of Myo levels.
He moved on eventually to hush 29mer Myo shRNA which was also futile.
He was not using the efficacy of viral vectors used in studies, relying more on other transfection regeants for the custom plasmid constructs. It was trial and error.
He is currently working on more research into other regeants and plans to keep trying to find the "magic bullet" in this area of interest to him.

Anyhow I digress, and just wanted to point out that IMO, systemic control of serum Myo is not worth the price, especially since this can already be achieved via AAS. I am not even discussing the potential health negatives of Myo alteration either.

So, for someone as dedicated to this as Black747 is, going the gene silencing route is a more fruitful direction. Reduction in Myo needs to be drastic and needs to be long term. I mean loooong, like typical growth factors require before manifestation of disernible results are realized. The kind of levels/duration in myo deficiency observed for years during ones growth phase, or years one might need to have myo silenced via gene therapy.

10 days or 100 days or even one year would not be worth the price of "continual use" method for this area IMO. But if you have ALL the money in the world, this may be a different viewpoint as well. ;)


Very informative post. Thanks a lot for the info.
 
Wassup muscle freaks its your man black747, bob is right alot of these so call inhibitors work but in terms of muscle growth its does nothing and we cant began to know the long term side effects of this shit but if you are crazy enough as i am to dedicate countless hours to this shit then i would look into viral vectors for those of you who have question feel free to pm me
 
Hey Black. We miss you at the other place as well. Glad you surfaced for air.
 
Bob makes a good point. If anyone remembers the story of that hulk, muscle-bound grayhound; she had a mutation in which her body naturally inhibited myostatin (this was purposely bred into her by trial and error btw)...Which means, she was born like that, and grew from birth like that...her whole life was with endogenous inhibition of myostatin activity, hence her enormous muscularity. I don't see how this would be achievable with a myostatin propeptide injectable unless one dosed routinely and indefinitely.
In theory, if you took it long enough to grow muscle cells (hyperplasia), granted you would keep those muscle cells for life; Like bob said, your body would have affinity for homeostasis and any and perhaps all hypertrophy would be lost w/out further supplementation.
 
When I see a guy go from 190 to 220 in a month, i wont waste that much money and would just stick to Gh and test.
 
Black! My God, you're alive!

Good to see you, my friend. Hope all is well!! Let me know if you're going to be following through with any new ventures. ;)
Hey bob wassup yeah man actually im working on something really big but i dont want to let the cat out the bag just yet but i will keep you and dat in the loop its a cocktail of a couple of inhibitors using the nano route.
 
When I see a guy go from 190 to 220 in a month, i wont waste that much money and would just stick to Gh and test.

Thats probably a good idea because you are not gonna gain that type of muscle mass from a gdf-8 inhibitor.
 

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