How are those compounds natural?
Do you mean a stack that doesn't shut down your natural test levels?
If that is the case don't use ostaraine as that will have a negative effect.
I am currently on Clomid to increase test levels and cialis for additional benefits was wondering if osterin and DAA could be worked into the equation. I read a doctor suggesting that it would be beneficial to take DAA with Clomid. Trying to understand how to best utilize these four compounds...
Dude. Stop kidding yourself with the 'natural thing'. You're not trying to be Natural. What does natural mean? Just because you're not going to use something that's on the natty banned list doesn't mean its natural imo.
You're trying to use Clomid and daa for petes sake.
Just do yourself a favor and stick the needle in because that's clearly what you're thinking. Everybody on the natural stage is using hgh anyways.
A true natural wouldn't be using anything except protein.
Idk why this makes me so angry.
Either be a real natty or don't. Cut the in between crap.
I got gyno from Ostarine FYI. IMO the results are not that great, and it tricks your body into making estrogen, as your body thinks additional androgens are present even though they are not. This doesnt happen to everyone but it happened to me. Imagine after all the AAS i did i got gyno from that bullshit !!! Because i didnt think i needed an AI !!! FML !!!
I think its better than S4, as that gives you night blindness !!! But your just not gonna get great results i dont think.
Maybe do a prohormone if your not ready for the needle?
Thx growman. I have been reading such glowing reviews on ironmaglabs osta product. I was hoping if I included one or a few of the other compounds I mentioned. The results would be positive.
Bro, I just want to understand, what exactly is your prerogative here? What is your end goal. What are you trying to do by taking all this stuff while being 'natty'
Bro, I just want to understand, what exactly is your prerogative here? What is your end goal. What are you trying to do by taking all this stuff while being 'natty'
I have secondary hypogonadism. I am not ready to go the trt route yet. Perhaps down the road I will. Working with my endo to see if we can get my test levels with clomid to the 700-800 range. I also have a script for cialis. I read an endo saying it may be beneficial to use DAA with clomid. Just want to see what some of the people out there who have much more experience than me would suggest with these four compounds.
There are lots of natty options out there for ya! One I think would yield great results would be:
-ARA
-Phosphatidic Acid (Fearns lecithin granules provide 1200mg a day for $7/mo)
-Anacyclus Pyrethreum (spelling might be a little off, its in PES AnaBeta)
-HMB
Hmmmm...
Aren't you the guy that wanted to compete "naturally" but use gear?
Or am I confusing you with somebody else...?
So what you're saying is, you're not doing this for any purpose except to increase your natural T levels because you have hypogonadism. Am I correct?
Hmmmm...
Aren't you the guy that wanted to compete "naturally" but use gear?
Or am I confusing you with somebody else...?
So what you're saying is, you're not doing this for any purpose except to increase your natural T levels because you have hypogonadism. Am I correct?
That was me and I wanted to compete in a "natural" show and find something that would help assist me in being able to compete at a specific show so I don't get pulled after spending 16 weeks for nothing. But as far as being natural it was a one time thing.
Testosterone is 100% natural to the body. It's not a synthetic alteration of anything unnatural. There is no ester attached to testosterone suspension.
75mg testosterone suspension twice a day, 45 minutes prior to training, double split routine. Prescribed by Dr. Diced.
Trinity - I don't think his intention was the same as you were thinking.. But I completely agree with you that its incredibly pathetic and kind of a pussy move to compete in a natural show but enhanced... I never competed natural - but I never would have even considered competing in a natural show... How in the world could you feel ANY pride winning a show like that?? LOL - it would be no different than faking disability to win in the Special Olympics - its EXACTLY the same... And I don't give a damn WHAT the excuse is..
Sorry for the digression
Testosterone is 100% natural to the body. It's not a synthetic alteration of anything unnatural. There is no ester attached to testosterone suspension.
75mg testosterone suspension twice a day, 45 minutes prior to training, double split routine. Prescribed by Dr. Diced.
hmmmm.... dr.Diced, this is a very very intriguing and valid point!
nandrolone is also naturally produced in the body
human growth hormone is too
wait...so is insulin
whoa ...so is thyroid
dr.diced, is this ok natural protocol? :
300 test suspension ED(100 3x)
200 nandrolone ace ED
10IU pharm HGH
10IU pharm insulin before every meal
40mcg t3 ED
plz lemme know asap, i really honor all of your input...