NEED HELP, TEST ONLY CYCLE

GETNHUGENRIPPED · Oct 3, 2004

Hey everyone

I'm getting ready to start my second test only cycle. I have 50cc's of Test Cyp 250mg/ml. The last time I did this I ran it for 12 weeks, 1 shot per week of 2cc's. I would apprechiate any and all advice on what I my could do to make my cycle more effective. Is one shot every 7 days good, or should it be less time between shoots? Is 2cc's enough? Etc.
BIG DAVE

Queefer · Oct 3, 2004

1 shot every other day.

healthfreak79 · Oct 3, 2004

I would run 1.5cc of test e4d(every 4 days) that would be 656 test per week.

Why test only why not deca or eq.

Run arimidex to help control bloat and have extra nolv on hand in case of gyno problems.

Set your self up a pct to help keep gains.

BigBoyJ · Oct 3, 2004

The half life of test cyp is 12 days, so there is no need to take it more than once a week, it won't help with anything unless you enjoy the feeling of shots. If I were you I'd just use 3 ml per week in one shot until it runs out (about 17 weeks, I like long cycles). As far as nolva, or an anti-aromatase, it's good to have it on hand, but if you don't need it, why take it?

My first few cycles were test only and the results were great. I still use test only sometimes. I you don't feel like adding any other drugs yet, then don't.

wyldeone · Oct 3, 2004

here you are!

As BigBoyJ stated there is no need to take a shot everyother day due to the long half-life of both the tet cyp. and enenthate. I would infact agree if you were using test prop. but that is not the case here. I would take 500mg every 7 days for 16 weeks if you are using test only as the basis of your cycle. I would althoe reccomend that in weeks 6-7 you take 2500iu HCG everyother day for a period of 10 days as this will help keep your epi-testosterone levels up and maximize your gains. in regards to the arimadex yes it is very effect at keeping hte water off althoe expensive and there is no need to use the nolvadex unless you start to feel gyno coming on. I would recommend that after 3-4 weeks you take 25-50mg of provion per day for the following 6 weeks! wyldeone.

healthfreak79 · Oct 4, 2004

I dont want to step on any toes here im new to the site, but i have a question. Is that how long you guys run all your cycles 16 to 17 weeks or longer. I always thought that 12 was around. Im running a 14 weeker right now, if you dont mind id like to hear some feed back on longer cycles. Do they make for better gains??? Maybe i need to extend??? Thanks bro

diskey · Oct 4, 2004

I tore some of my left pec while doing close grip bench presses in the smith machine with moderate weight on my sust only cycle 580mg/ew. I think it had something to do with beeing only on test. Don't think I will run test alone ever again without something that strengthens my tendons at the same time

Look in the article section for the full thread. By Weight77:

"While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man"

BigBoyJ · Oct 4, 2004

I just can't say that I believe that. I've heard it before, but it never seemed to apply in my case. When I go off for a few months, my joints and tendons feel the strain of 15 years of lifting. But, when I go back on, after a few weeks everything feels great again. Those little chronic aches and pains go away. Somtimes I think people should judge from their experiences instead of lab reports. Of course you seem to have had a bad experience, so who knows.

Winny, on the other hand, I will never use again.... period.

TooPowerful4u · Oct 4, 2004

Big Dave is a friend of mine. He failed to mention hes about 6'2 close to 290lbs and about 20%bf. Shouldnt he dose higher?

GETNHUGENRIPPED · Oct 4, 2004

TooPowerful4U, Sup my brotha! What would you suggest for the higher dosages?

diskey · Oct 4, 2004

Yes I really don't like to use lab reports as a base either, but I didn't care about this and didn't search for posts like the one from Weigth77 before this tore happened. An other thing I've experienced with using deca right now(I've actually never have used deca before) is that for the first time in two years I'm able to do bicep curls with a straight bar without pain. My troublesome wrists are so much better.

Perhaps at lower test only cycles, or if your experienced and work your way up to some strength niveu you were before - your not that prone to injuries as someone who use test only and are using workloads hes never done before.

G.E.R.M · Oct 4, 2004

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i like to frontload shit like cyp and enanthate..

cuz really you dont have 500mg of test in your system every week until a few weeks of injections...

i dont frontload massive amts either, just enough to have 500 in my system constantly..

MikeS · Oct 4, 2004

If youre going to front load, do the long acting test as usual, and add suspension and/or prop.

wyldeone · Oct 5, 2004

I agree!

I agree with Mike_S here completely as the only way to properly frontload is to start loading the longer acting test esters and keep the total mg dosage a little lower to factor in the test prop or suspension as this is great advice as always Mike_S. wyldeone.