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Iron Queen
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Nitrotain
Anyone have experience with Nitrotain before? I've heard great reviews about this drug w/ the anabolic:androgenic ratio being 19:1, which would be PERFECT for a female. Anyone know if this is even avail. outside Australia? Everyone I talk to that has used it lives in Australia, seems like nobody from the US has any experience? HELP!
--Iron Queen
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Jammerzzx
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On paper it looks really impressive, but in real life, its noting special. Lots of women I know like to use it because it is mild as all hell and doens't turn them in to Loiuse Ferrigno. Its available from IP in 20mg tabs and from Australia in the Nitrotain paste tubes. I've used both and wasn't all that impressed. Its good to bridge between a cycle, but other than that, you're better off getting anavar or good ol' dbol!
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you're better off getting anavar or good ol' dbol!
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Anavar maybe but I don't think the dbol would be a good option since I'm assuming Iron Queen is female.
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Iron Queen
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OK... thanks for the reply! but.... you said it was avail. through IP? Is it like maxibolin that came out years ago? or is it a copy of the nitrotain paste? What is the product called from IP? I'm curious about that now but not sure how good IP would be to use considering all the horror stories I've heard about him. But definitely worth checking into.
Anyone else w/ experience?
--Iron Queen
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03-27-2002 12:20 AM
Jammerzzx
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Yup, just like maxibolin...same drug. Not in paste form. (Btw, I was also assuming that Iron Queen was female, and I know of some women that get by using 5mg dbol a day with great results...I wasn't trying to say "go for 100mg a day" or anything I've personally never had a bad batch of anything from IP.
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NubianBeauty
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I want some too
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Ozmrolympia
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IP's products are garbage. And his nitrotain tablets are definetely not the same as the Nitrotain paste. I still cannot understand why anyone would use high alcohol, inconsistent, bootleg garbage from IP when there are many quality vet and human products available, and above all recommend these inconsistent products to a female. I guess it boils down to connections.
Here is the deal with Nitrotain. It is available in Australia and made by Nature Vet. It is produced in two varieties being in a 60g syringe and a 1 kilogram tub. The product contains Ethylestrenol 15mg/4g. It is a very good drug for women and it has nearly zero virilizing effects. A lot of females i help use it with great results. It is the only oral drug i recommend to females as well as 100mg per ml shering primobolan injection.
A good dose for a female is about 4g a day which equals 15 mg of ethylestrenol. This dose can easily be stretched out to 8g a day without any problems.
Interestingly, my buddy who is probably one of the biggest and most aestheticly pleasing bodybuilders in australia loves notrotain. He uses 20 grams a day, and it is his drug of choice. Why? Because it is safe, effective, there is minimal water gain, gains are more permanent and it gives a user a feeling of well being. Appetite also increases from the products use.
I hope i was of any help Iron Queen. Pm me if you need to know anything
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NubianBeauty
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I have not and never will use IP anything, women can not roll the dice in that directiion IMO... you never know what you're actually getting with him... I for one am REALLY interested in Nitrotain, not IP Maxibolin
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NubianBeauty
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BTW, I sent ya a pm
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03-27-2002 08:23 AM
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Nitrotain is made by Biochemical Veterinary Research.
In the US you can get it in oral form - Maxibolin.
In Europe you can get the oral as Orabolin.
It's also available in Australia as a vet tablet called Nandoral.
I think it's great for women at any dose - no sides at all, and I personally like it for bridging.
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03-27-2002 11:01 AM
Ozmrolympia
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BIG A Nitrotain is made by Nature Vet now. I have their product list in front of me. I think they must have bought out Biochemical Veterinary Research or are producing for them. It is being sold under the nature vet name. I bought a 1kg tub not long ago. I have not used it yet. I will be using it in my Pre contest cycle for my show debut in September.
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jstrong20
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Well naturevet also makes Methandriol which has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 200/1. Here is a link about it. www.Naturevet.com/ProductProfile.asp?pr=69
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Iron Queen
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Well naturevet also makes Methandriol which has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 200/1. Here is a link about it. www.Naturevet.com/ProductProfile.asp?pr=69
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Whoa... 200:1??? I read that and that seems almost too good to be true? Is this like anavar? Anyone used this product w/ good results?
--IQ
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03-27-2002 07:49 PM
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Well naturevet also makes Methandriol which has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 200/1. Here is a link about it. www.Naturevet.com/ProductProfile.asp?pr=69
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But it states that 1kg only contains 1.2g!
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Methandriol
Methandriol may not be an option for men. Here is Bill Robert's response:
"This substance, used in some Australian veterinary products, is to be avoided by male bodybuilders. It is highly estrogenic, and has no redeeming properties. It is a poor anabolic and the mythical "receptor-cleaning" properties that have been claimed for it are pure fantasy.
An antiaromatase would not correct the estrogenic problems of this drug, since it is directly estrogenic, not requiring conversion by aromatase. An antiestrogen such as Clomid would probably help, but since methandriol is a poor anabolic anyway, there is no point to a methandriol/Clomid stack."
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Ozmrolympia
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I have to agree with Bill Roberts. I hate methandriol these days
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Nitrotain
Anyone have experience with Nitrotain before? I've heard great reviews about this drug w/ the anabolic:androgenic ratio being 19:1, which would be PERFECT for a female. Anyone know if this is even avail. outside Australia? Everyone I talk to that has used it lives in Australia, seems like nobody from the US has any experience? HELP!
--Iron Queen
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03-26-2002 07:33 PM
Jammerzzx
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On paper it looks really impressive, but in real life, its noting special. Lots of women I know like to use it because it is mild as all hell and doens't turn them in to Loiuse Ferrigno. Its available from IP in 20mg tabs and from Australia in the Nitrotain paste tubes. I've used both and wasn't all that impressed. Its good to bridge between a cycle, but other than that, you're better off getting anavar or good ol' dbol!
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03-26-2002 09:54 PM
jstrong20
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quote:
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Originally posted by Jammerzzx
you're better off getting anavar or good ol' dbol!
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Anavar maybe but I don't think the dbol would be a good option since I'm assuming Iron Queen is female.
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03-26-2002 11:57 PM
Iron Queen
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OK... thanks for the reply! but.... you said it was avail. through IP? Is it like maxibolin that came out years ago? or is it a copy of the nitrotain paste? What is the product called from IP? I'm curious about that now but not sure how good IP would be to use considering all the horror stories I've heard about him. But definitely worth checking into.
Anyone else w/ experience?
--Iron Queen
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03-27-2002 12:20 AM
Jammerzzx
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Yup, just like maxibolin...same drug. Not in paste form. (Btw, I was also assuming that Iron Queen was female, and I know of some women that get by using 5mg dbol a day with great results...I wasn't trying to say "go for 100mg a day" or anything I've personally never had a bad batch of anything from IP.
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NubianBeauty
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I want some too
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Ozmrolympia
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IP's products are garbage. And his nitrotain tablets are definetely not the same as the Nitrotain paste. I still cannot understand why anyone would use high alcohol, inconsistent, bootleg garbage from IP when there are many quality vet and human products available, and above all recommend these inconsistent products to a female. I guess it boils down to connections.
Here is the deal with Nitrotain. It is available in Australia and made by Nature Vet. It is produced in two varieties being in a 60g syringe and a 1 kilogram tub. The product contains Ethylestrenol 15mg/4g. It is a very good drug for women and it has nearly zero virilizing effects. A lot of females i help use it with great results. It is the only oral drug i recommend to females as well as 100mg per ml shering primobolan injection.
A good dose for a female is about 4g a day which equals 15 mg of ethylestrenol. This dose can easily be stretched out to 8g a day without any problems.
Interestingly, my buddy who is probably one of the biggest and most aestheticly pleasing bodybuilders in australia loves notrotain. He uses 20 grams a day, and it is his drug of choice. Why? Because it is safe, effective, there is minimal water gain, gains are more permanent and it gives a user a feeling of well being. Appetite also increases from the products use.
I hope i was of any help Iron Queen. Pm me if you need to know anything
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NubianBeauty
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I have not and never will use IP anything, women can not roll the dice in that directiion IMO... you never know what you're actually getting with him... I for one am REALLY interested in Nitrotain, not IP Maxibolin
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03-27-2002 08:17 AM
NubianBeauty
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BTW, I sent ya a pm
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03-27-2002 08:23 AM
Big A
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Nitrotain is made by Biochemical Veterinary Research.
In the US you can get it in oral form - Maxibolin.
In Europe you can get the oral as Orabolin.
It's also available in Australia as a vet tablet called Nandoral.
I think it's great for women at any dose - no sides at all, and I personally like it for bridging.
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03-27-2002 11:01 AM
Ozmrolympia
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BIG A Nitrotain is made by Nature Vet now. I have their product list in front of me. I think they must have bought out Biochemical Veterinary Research or are producing for them. It is being sold under the nature vet name. I bought a 1kg tub not long ago. I have not used it yet. I will be using it in my Pre contest cycle for my show debut in September.
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jstrong20
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Well naturevet also makes Methandriol which has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 200/1. Here is a link about it. www.Naturevet.com/ProductProfile.asp?pr=69
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Iron Queen
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quote:
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Originally posted by jstrong20
Well naturevet also makes Methandriol which has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 200/1. Here is a link about it. www.Naturevet.com/ProductProfile.asp?pr=69
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Whoa... 200:1??? I read that and that seems almost too good to be true? Is this like anavar? Anyone used this product w/ good results?
--IQ
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03-27-2002 07:49 PM
xcelbeyond
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quote:
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Originally posted by jstrong20
Well naturevet also makes Methandriol which has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 200/1. Here is a link about it. www.Naturevet.com/ProductProfile.asp?pr=69
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But it states that 1kg only contains 1.2g!
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Methandriol
Methandriol may not be an option for men. Here is Bill Robert's response:
"This substance, used in some Australian veterinary products, is to be avoided by male bodybuilders. It is highly estrogenic, and has no redeeming properties. It is a poor anabolic and the mythical "receptor-cleaning" properties that have been claimed for it are pure fantasy.
An antiaromatase would not correct the estrogenic problems of this drug, since it is directly estrogenic, not requiring conversion by aromatase. An antiestrogen such as Clomid would probably help, but since methandriol is a poor anabolic anyway, there is no point to a methandriol/Clomid stack."
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Ozmrolympia
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I have to agree with Bill Roberts. I hate methandriol these days
