Phentramin

[microcentillion]

I figure I should get my first post out of the way eventually.

I saw a thread several months ago about the pros and cons of Phentermine, and it seemed pretty solid that it would do what it claimed as long as you accepted the side effects. After my 5th month of unsuccessfully trying to drop my gut, I'm willing to try just about anything to get my abs to show through; With Phentermine requiring a perscription (and me having little cash and no insurance), I've been considering a purchase of Phentramin-D.

Has anyone had any experience with this stuff? It claims to be less addictive than Phentermine, but it's never even been mentioned here.

 

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I'm willing to try just about anything to get my abs to show through

Tell us what you have been doing up to now.
Sample day of your diet?
What is your workout routine?

 

[microcentillion]

Up until now I've been following a routine outlined by BodyBuilding.com:

Monday: Chest, Triceps, Lower Abs
Wednesday: Back, Biceps, Calves
Friday: Shoulders, Legs, Upper Abs

3 exercises per body part, 3 sets, 8-12 reps to failure. 30-60 Minutes of cardio on Incline Treadmill, depending on how much time I've got.

My Diet is pretty consistent:
1. Shake for breakfast: Cup of Milk, 2 Scoops of protein, 2 eggs, a banana, and a couple heaping spoonfuls of ground oatmeal.
2. Subway for lunch (It's literally my only option)
3. Another shake right when I get home, leading into >
4. Dinner that's heavy on meats; Grilled chicken, pork chops, or lean ground beef.
5. Before bed, I typically snack on fresh veggies (Carrots or corn mostly), salad, or shredded wheat.


I am still pretty new to the Lifting scene, clocking just under 6 months of activity at the gym - continuing the transition from the Mtn Dew, Dr. Pepper, & Pizza Gamer Nerd Stereotype. I've read that the initiation is the only time you can somewhat accomplish a bulk/cut at the same time, but my master plan of increasing muscle mass isn't having any effect on my BF%.

 

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Try this:
1 exercise per body-part 3 sets 8-10 reps ONLY the last set to failure. Pick basic, compound exercises when possible. Train each body-part every 4 days.
Do intervals for cardio. 3 - 3.5mph & 8-12% incline for 90 sec then 3 - 3.5mph 0% incline for 3 min. Repeat until time goal reached
Go to Burn Fat, Lose Weight, and Gain Muscle - DailyBurn and set up a free account. Track your intake. Aim for 40% Protein, 30% EFA's & 30% Carbs.
Give that 3 months.
If you need more help than that - hire one of the trainers here...
Best of luck.

Excuses and apathy get you nowhere - action and determination open up possibilities...

 

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Thanks for the link and the suggestions! I'll push through with that and see how it goes!

 

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Aim for 40% Protein, 30% EFA's & 30% Carbs.

Any suggestions on what to get the EFA's from? I haven't been able to locate any consistent information about sources.

 

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Olive oil, Olives, Macadamia Oil or nuts, Walnuts, Almonds, Pistachios, Salmon, Fish Oil supplement, Sardines, Mackerel, Natural Peanut Butter, Omega 3 Eggs...
Anything with high Mono-Unsaturated oils or Omega 3 oils - flax only in a pinch.

 

[shawnkarbabacz]

Olive oil, Olives, Macadamia Oil or nuts, Walnuts, Almonds, Pistachios, Salmon, Fish Oil supplement, Sardines, Mackerel, Natural Peanut Butter, Omega 3 Eggs...
Anything with high Mono-Unsaturated oils or Omega 3 oils - flax only in a pinch.

Healthy fats are easy to come by, and fun to take in When im not dieting i have to watch how much natty PB i have cause i can go through half a jug easy in one sitting. Try the costco brand. Its great. I also prefer the omega 3 eggs not only because of the obvious reasons, but they taste much better too.

I read in a post that True Protein is a sponsor now, but i dont see their banner. Hopefully it is true because you can go to their website and get fish oil pills (if you prefer that over the oils like me) for DIRT cheap! Sorry if i just plugged a non sponsor.

Try snacking on your healthy fats later at night instead of the shredded wheat or carrots.

 

[microcentillion]

Full Pro. Thanks for the help. Daily burn is showing me that I gotta switch to Skim milk and a cleaner Protein (Using EAS), so I'll try out that TrueProtein link Quad mentioned elsewhere. Also turns out getting the protein I needed was WAY more work than I had previously thought. I find myself downing 3x Double serving protein shakes per day just to get in the ballpark. Let me know if this is a bad idea...