Hi guys its been a while since my last cycle and I've never used all these drugs at the same time so I'm just looking for some general advice or suggestions/tweaks on my next protocol. I have plenty of experience with every drug here(with the exception of hgh frag) but like I said, I've never used them all at once before. This will be a 10 week cycle. Goals are to gain as much muscle as possible whilst losing around 2% bodyfat.
ps if theirs enough people interested I will keep a log.
Test E - 10 weeks at 750mg split into 2 shots tues/fri
Anavar - weeks 5-10 at 80mg per day
Insulin - weeks 1-5 8iu pre AND 8iu pwo (only on workout days)
Hgh - 30-35iu per week
Ghrp2 & cjc no dac - saturation dose 3x per day minimum
Hgh frag - 250mcg pre bed and pre workout on cardio days.
Clen - 2 weeks on 2 weeks off throughout cycle 40-120mcg
ECA - pre workout only on training days
Let me explain how I'll take all this and the reasoning for my methods:
Insulin - I take this pre and post because there is too many contradicting statements as to what works best. I find this works best for ME so I'll be using it 30 mins pre workout and then again immediately PWO.
HGH - I'll be using generic from a good source. I take a daily shot of 2.5iu(only on workout days), 10 mins after my midday peptide shot, which will be around my workout. I'm also going to shoot a bigger dose of 10iu twice per week. The timing of this 10iu shot will differ depending on what shift pattern I work. One week I will set an alarm, wake up 5-6am for a shot and go back to sleep. The following week it will be a PWO shot. Again nobody has a sure answer for the best method as far as I am aware so I'll cover all angles and vary my timing.
Peptides - Because of the slin it becomes difficult to use peptides PWO. So for the first 5 weeks when I am ON slin, I will shoot ghrp2 & cjc no dac as soon as I wake up, pre workout, and 1 hr before bed. HGH frag will be shot right before bed and then right before cardio ONLY on fasted cardio days.
So the plan will look something like this;
Upon wakening - Saturation dose 100mcg ghrp2/100mcg cjc no dac
1 hr pre workout sat dose peps
10 mins later 2.5iu hgh
20 mins later 8iu slin and shake
30 mins later gym and intra shake
immediately pwo 8iu slin
1 hr before bed saturation dose peps
hgh frag pre bed and pre workout on cardio days at 250mcg per shot
When I am OFF the slin I will swap the pre workout dose of peps/gh for a PWO shot so I can time my carb intake better.
I have a few questions for those who have knowledge/experience on the topic.
1) Before fasted cardio in the mornings shall I use a saturation dose of ghrp2/cjc no dac or hgh frag, OR BOTH? I was thinking a 250mcg shot of hgh frag pre workout and a saturation dose of ghrp2/cjc no dac PWO?
2) Would yohimbine and caffeine be a better stack over ECA when fat loss is the goal?
3) I noticed t3 kept me very flat on past usage. Would you guys recommend this or shall I leave it out?
4) Would you guys change anything here?
I won't bore you with my diet and training schedule unless anybody is interested lol
ps if theirs enough people interested I will keep a log.
Test E - 10 weeks at 750mg split into 2 shots tues/fri
Anavar - weeks 5-10 at 80mg per day
Insulin - weeks 1-5 8iu pre AND 8iu pwo (only on workout days)
Hgh - 30-35iu per week
Ghrp2 & cjc no dac - saturation dose 3x per day minimum
Hgh frag - 250mcg pre bed and pre workout on cardio days.
Clen - 2 weeks on 2 weeks off throughout cycle 40-120mcg
ECA - pre workout only on training days
Let me explain how I'll take all this and the reasoning for my methods:
Insulin - I take this pre and post because there is too many contradicting statements as to what works best. I find this works best for ME so I'll be using it 30 mins pre workout and then again immediately PWO.
HGH - I'll be using generic from a good source. I take a daily shot of 2.5iu(only on workout days), 10 mins after my midday peptide shot, which will be around my workout. I'm also going to shoot a bigger dose of 10iu twice per week. The timing of this 10iu shot will differ depending on what shift pattern I work. One week I will set an alarm, wake up 5-6am for a shot and go back to sleep. The following week it will be a PWO shot. Again nobody has a sure answer for the best method as far as I am aware so I'll cover all angles and vary my timing.
Peptides - Because of the slin it becomes difficult to use peptides PWO. So for the first 5 weeks when I am ON slin, I will shoot ghrp2 & cjc no dac as soon as I wake up, pre workout, and 1 hr before bed. HGH frag will be shot right before bed and then right before cardio ONLY on fasted cardio days.
So the plan will look something like this;
Upon wakening - Saturation dose 100mcg ghrp2/100mcg cjc no dac
1 hr pre workout sat dose peps
10 mins later 2.5iu hgh
20 mins later 8iu slin and shake
30 mins later gym and intra shake
immediately pwo 8iu slin
1 hr before bed saturation dose peps
hgh frag pre bed and pre workout on cardio days at 250mcg per shot
When I am OFF the slin I will swap the pre workout dose of peps/gh for a PWO shot so I can time my carb intake better.
I have a few questions for those who have knowledge/experience on the topic.
1) Before fasted cardio in the mornings shall I use a saturation dose of ghrp2/cjc no dac or hgh frag, OR BOTH? I was thinking a 250mcg shot of hgh frag pre workout and a saturation dose of ghrp2/cjc no dac PWO?
2) Would yohimbine and caffeine be a better stack over ECA when fat loss is the goal?
3) I noticed t3 kept me very flat on past usage. Would you guys recommend this or shall I leave it out?
4) Would you guys change anything here?
I won't bore you with my diet and training schedule unless anybody is interested lol
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