I totally agree! I will NEVER do a Tren only cycle again. After a about 4 weeks of Tren daily @ 100mg I had a serious case of limp dick and I felt like total shit. From what I understand , Tren supresses the production of testosterone bigtime. So in my opinion, if your going to use Tren, add some Test along with it. One of my favorite cycle has been a Test Propionate/ Tren combination. Then, if you like, throw in a little Winny and you'll have yourself an awesome cycle.