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These Top People in the Sport Blasting high amounts of test

Dezzy

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I know this article has been discussed before and Doggcrap is a member of this board. I just wanted to get a new take on this. Thanks.

these top people in the sport are blasting high amounts of test as the base drug in the offseason to put on pro size with mostly one (sometimes two) other compounds (usually fina, or equipoise or some other non exotic drug). (and gh if it can be afforded). I firmly believe you will gain 2 times the amount of muscle off of 2 grams of test either alone or with another compound than having some kind of exotic stack involving 3 to 6 exotic hard to get expensive compounds. The receptor site theories have proven to be bunk. The cheapest and best stack I can think of anyone doing to put on major size is a gram or two of test with arimidex to keep water off with fina 75 to 150mg every other day for 4 weeks --then 2 to 3 weeks of cruising (test at 300-400mg and clomid at 5 (day one), 4(day two), 3(day three),then 2 every day for 2 weeks)--and then back on everything full again (maybe equipoise used instead of fina this time)for 4 weeks (then 2 to 3 weeks cruising again etc etc)---if you cant gain gobs of muscle on that nothing exotic (masteron, etc etc etc) surely isnt going to do it for you. Testosterone is always the base for any gaining cycle of any pro freind Ive had or top people with whom I talked with off record. I have never even been over 1000mg of test myself (yet) but I see guys spending and using 10 times the amount I do weighing 70lbs less. I think there is a major problem when the easiest, cheapest and most potent things are right in front of people and they are off searching for substance B-737 undecylate in Bulgaria

Doggcrap: "Cycle on Pennies post"
 
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Well, hypothetically

If i were in a country where it were legal to use such compounds. I would be doing it 4 weeks on, test @ 800 mgs/w, deca @ 400 mg/w, arimidex @ 0.5 mg/d. then cruise for 2 weeks, HCG at 500 IUs 2x per week for the cruise, along with 20 mgs of nolva for those 2 weeks.. then back on for a blast.

hypothetically of course :)
 
I got some of that B-737 (the ace version) and put on tons of muscle with that...I mean I was just blowing up and my squat went up to over 700lbs for 20 plus reps...But then I went off of it, and lost it all..I didnt get any pics though..so I cant show anyone what it can do..maybe I'll get some more...

chris
 
also mine was from the woods in my back yard..Not Bulgaria...LOL !!!
 
Actully in all seriousness I believe what Dezzy said is pretty much right on...
 
Yea... there are some really good threads on here about this subject some dating back to '03 if I remember right.

But there are some different people on here with different knowledge/experience than then.
 
That post was originally made back in 2000 or 2001.

I remember when it was just a single post, and nobody had replied... lol.

A couple years later it was like a billion pages long.
 
I got some of that B-737 (the ace version) and put on tons of muscle with that...I mean I was just blowing up and my squat went up to over 700lbs for 20 plus reps...But then I went off of it, and lost it all..I didnt get any pics though..so I cant show anyone what it can do..maybe I'll get some more...

chris

Lmao! Wait till you try the B-737 undecanoate!
 
If i were in a country where it were legal to use such compounds. I would be doing it 4 weeks on, test @ 800 mgs/w, deca @ 400 mg/w, arimidex @ 0.5 mg/d. then cruise for 2 weeks, HCG at 500 IUs 2x per week for the cruise, along with 20 mgs of nolva for those 2 weeks.. then back on for a blast.

hypothetically of course :)

So would you be running a small amount of test during your cruise? Hypothetically...
 
So would you be running a small amount of test during your cruise? Hypothetically...

if your trying to gain that much size and not cruising between blasts your taking two steps forward and one step back imo. One other thing you didnt mention, i dont know for sure but id amagine most of the big boys are using some slin with there gh off season.
 
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if your trying to gain that much size and not cruising between blasts your taking two steps forward and one step back imo. One other thing you didnt mention, i dont know for sure but id amagine most of the big boys are using some slin with there gh off season.

I think slin is very underated when it comes to putting on side. I won't touch it right now, but I've heard it will put some real size on you...
 
I think slin is very underated when it comes to putting on side. I won't touch it right now, but I've heard it will put some real size on you...

its not just a matter of using insulin by choice, when your GH is high enough you pretty much have to because from what I understand GH in high amounts will drive your insulin levels down
 
Before you cut and paste something you have to tell everyone the context it was taken out of......

A) Like Shelby said that was written back in january of 2000 I believe
B) It was my response to guys on that board who were bludgeoning themselves with everything but the kitchen sink year round and looking for some secret compound because they still didnt think they had the secret that pros and top people used. They kept thinking there was some magical substance that pro's used they didnt know about.
C) My post was "well instead of bludgeoning yourself year round how bout this option instead" (they sure as hell werent getting off)
D) It pains me greatly when people cut and paste things I said but dont tell everyone the actual context of where it came from because then it looks like what I am recommending to the masses. I sure as hell wouldnt recommend that to everyone....that was for a bunch of guys (who were advanced) on that board at that time who were blasting very heavy and 365 days a year. (and 10 years ago)
 
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Dante, I know you're rather weary and cautious of posting about stuff like this on the boards now days, and when you do it's very ambiguous. My question is this...would you mind sharing your thoughts on the SAFEST way for the not so SUPER advanced guys to utilize ergo aids to put on some appreciable mass? I've followed all your stuff, and honestly, your thoughts on AAS are few and far between, and rather murky as well. I actually found this quite some time ago but didn't know if it was still your preferred methodology. Your post below cleared that one up.
Before you cut and paste something you have to tell everyone the context it was taken out of......

A) Like Shelby said that was written back in january of 2000 I believe
B) It was my response to guys on that board who were bludgeoning themselves with everything but the kitchen sink year round and looking for some secret compound because they still didnt think they had the secret that pros and top people used. They kept thinking there was some magical substance that pro's used they didnt know about.
C) My post was "well instead of bludgeoning yourself year round how bout this option instead" (they sure as hell werent getting off)
D) It pains me greatly when people cut and paste things I said but dont tell everyone the actual context of where it came from because then it looks like what I am recommending to the masses. I sure as hell wouldnt recommend that to everyone....that was for a bunch of guys (who were advanced) on that board at that time who were blasting very heavy and 365 days a year.
 
I think slin is very underated when it comes to putting on side. I won't touch it right now, but I've heard it will put some real size on you...

Along with some good size on your waist!!! Insulin may be the most anabolic hormone in the body but it's also the most fat sparing hormone as well.
 
Dante, I know you're rather weary and cautious of posting about stuff like this on the boards now days, and when you do it's very ambiguous. My question is this...would you mind sharing your thoughts on the SAFEST way for the not so SUPER advanced guys to utilize ergo aids to put on some appreciable mass?

Nope not a chance dont want to discuss that subject at all in todays red hot climate about the topic.....I dont do anything illegal so I dont have much to worry about but I have seen what the powers that be do to people who are openmouthed on that subject (from Duchaine to Phillips to Palumbo to Gavin Kane etc etc etc)

heck read thru these 3 threads

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showpost.php?p=189758&postcount=256

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showpost.php?p=908337&postcount=45

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showpost.php?p=906399&postcount=32
 
There is no freedom of speech in the USA anymore. And that was the last freedom that we actually really did have. Guns will be the next. They already got testosterone, or even just talking about it. Free speech, guns, male hormones. Those three things do go together.
 
Thats what I figured. Hey, can't catch a fish if you don't throw your hook in the water...:cool:
Nope not a chance dont want to discuss that subject at all in todays red hot climate about the topic.....I dont do anything illegal so I dont have much to worry about but I have seen what the powers that be do to people who are openmouthed on that subject (from Duchaine to Phillips to Palumbo to Gavin Kane etc etc etc)

heck read thru these 3 threads

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showpost.php?p=189758&postcount=256

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showpost.php?p=908337&postcount=45

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showpost.php?p=906399&postcount=32
 
hay tren man if thay ban everything male relaited does that min waman run this country? lol
 
Before you cut and paste something you have to tell everyone the context it was taken out of......

A) Like Shelby said that was written back in january of 2000 I believe
B) It was my response to guys on that board who were bludgeoning themselves with everything but the kitchen sink year round and looking for some secret compound because they still didnt think they had the secret that pros and top people used. They kept thinking there was some magical substance that pro's used they didnt know about.
C) My post was "well instead of bludgeoning yourself year round how bout this option instead" (they sure as hell werent getting off)
D) It pains me greatly when people cut and paste things I said but dont tell everyone the actual context of where it came from because then it looks like what I am recommending to the masses. I sure as hell wouldnt recommend that to everyone....that was for a bunch of guys (who were advanced) on that board at that time who were blasting very heavy and 365 days a year. (and 10 years ago)

I'm sorry to take that out of context Dante, I just thought if I brought it up again I might get a fresh take on it from some advanced Bodybuilders and Pro's, and especially you. But I was mistaken...
I was not aware that you no longer discuss this subject openly, but I understand why. Thanks again for posting one of the best discusions I have read on the topic
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