What’s the most amount of testosterone you have used?

[Flocci]

I just don't get why that was always the case, i used to Brew it at 400 without any problems, tren ace was brewed at 200 and painless.

Thats surprising. Do you tend to have a low susceptability of getting PIP? i would imagine most people would get pretty bad PIP from testE at 400mg/ml. Did you use certain solvents or just the regular recipe?

I see people complaining about PIP at 350mg/ml concentrations too, but some people are pussies too, lol.

 

[aHarness]

Only 400mg so far. Which are beginner doses compared to others here. I need to try higher doses.

Well, are you new to PEDs? What are your goals?

 

[mexbeast]

Thats surprising. Do you tend to have a low susceptability of getting PIP? i would imagine most people would get pretty bad PIP from testE at 400mg/ml. Did you use certain solvents or just the regular recipe?

I see people complaining about PIP at 350mg/ml concentrations too, but some people are pussies too, lol.

Nothing special, just 20%bb and i was normal i think since i would get pip from regular prop. Any one remember testoprim D? That would give me the worst pip ever, but after i started putting them in boiling water for a couple minutes never got pip again. That was 15 years ago now i don't get any pip even from prop

 

[mimo]

Yup, his “protocol” is basically sky high test with some HCG and HMG. Little DHT from proviron or mast if necessary. I think the theory is that it jacks free test up so high that the Leydig cells kind of come back online.

Butchered explanation, but I know a handful of people for whom it’s worked…and I think we all know guys who’ve conceived on their biggest blasts ie during prep.

Disn't Ben Chow use this protocol when they were working together, to get his wife pregnant? I think so.

 

[SunrisePharma]

I used to run 2000 mg per week Test E for 12 to 14 weeks pre-contest as well as other compounds.

 

[dantes]

Nothing special, just 20%bb and i was normal i think since i would get pip from regular prop. Any one remember testoprim D? That would give me the worst pip ever, but after i started putting them in boiling water for a couple minutes never got pip again. That was 15 years ago now i don't get any pip even from prop

Testoprim D was made in Mexico I think? Stuff was horrendous. I am pretty sure it is still made

 

[Swifto]

I ran 750mg per week about 18 years ago, when I had zero business using steroids at all (poor diet/lifestyle), and blew up like a water balloon for about 3 weeks then stopped. Not used more than 500mg since.

 

[Fleezy]

Is there any reason to not use as much testosterone as we can tolerate without feeling like ass and having our health markers decline?

- misguided notions of ‘morality’ aside

 

[IceCream]

I ran 750mg per week about 18 years ago, when I had zero business using steroids at all (poor diet/lifestyle), and blew up like a water balloon for about 3 weeks then stopped. Not used more than 500mg since.

what the water be from mainly calorie intake though ? body weight stay same if calorie intake stay same

 

[madg]

what the water be from mainly calorie intake though ? body weight stay same if calorie intake stay same

He clearly say POOR DIET/LIFESTYLE

 

[Bigpoppaseth]

I wouldn’t recommend anything over 1200-1500 . Even though I’ve done more it’s not worth it

 

[Fleezy]

I wouldn’t recommend anything over 1200-1500 . Even though I’ve done more it’s not worth it

Could you elaborate?

 

[Bigpoppaseth]

higher mg doesn’t always necessarily mean more gains and progress. Yea there are times you need to push if your wanting to grow but a lot of the times if people just train harder and actual ate the right foods you can a lot of progress on far less .

 

[need4tren]

higher mg doesn’t always necessarily mean more gains and progress. Yea there are times you need to push if your wanting to grow but a lot of the times if people just train harder and actual ate the right foods you can a lot of progress on far less .

if your diet and training is on point. Then progressively escalating your dose will always produce more gains.

But in most cases most guys diets and training arnt on point, plus they are drinking alcohol and not getting enough quality sleep and in those cases taking more gear won’t do shit

 

[luki7788]

higher mg doesn’t always necessarily mean more gains and progress. Yea there are times you need to push if your wanting to grow but a lot of the times if people just train harder and actual ate the right foods you can a lot of progress on far less .

if you need something to fill the needed mg test seems like the most reasonable and healthiest option. I can't imagine that someone who needs 4-5g (I know that a handful of people really need that much but if someone wants to be like samson and have 300 lbs on stage - let's ignore the issue of appropriate genetics) then I can't imagine taking 1.5g test and filling the rest with anabolics because it's a huge amount

 

[Bigpoppaseth]

if you need something to fill the needed mg test seems like the most reasonable and healthiest option. I can't imagine that someone who needs 4-5g (I know that a handful of people really need that much but if someone wants to be like samson and have 300 lbs on stage - let's ignore the issue of appropriate genetics) then I can't imagine taking 1.5g test and filling the rest with anabolics because it's a huge amount

Oh I agree more test is probably the healthiest option but come one if someone is really blasting 2-4g of test they are going to be blasting more compounds and damage their health. More is not always better it ends up catching you .

 

[Bigpoppaseth]

if your diet and training is on point. Then progressively escalating your dose will always produce more gains.

But in most cases most guys diets and training arnt on point, plus they are drinking alcohol and not getting enough quality sleep and in those cases taking more gear won’t do shit

Yes you’re right I’m speaking as if most people are not . Because usually that’s the case unless your competitor and taking it seriously. And even some of them can’t even do that in the off season !

 

[letsgethuge]

highest doses ran was at 1200mg, i don’t see much reason to go above 1000 tho anything above that i feel is diminishing from my experience….

 

[marssel]

highest doses ran was at 1200mg, i don’t see much reason to go above 1000 tho anything above that i feel is diminishing from my experience….

For me 1000 was the sweet spot and I ran it pretty much from 30-38 years old stopping only for fertility

 

[my_way]

I wouldn’t recommend anything over 1200-1500 . Even though I’ve done more it’s not worth it

Really? I always heard things just start to get interesting around those doses.