THG

[Armageddon]

What is all this talk about this product among baseball players and what not. I know I've been busy most of this fall/summer but I have yet to hear about this stuff. Anyone have any insight. But I have another good point, I watched Rome is burning the other night as they talked about juice and everyone was trying to bash them. One man stood up and defended them, HUNTER Mr. Fred Dryer himself. I knew there was a reason I liked his show growing up as a kid! He said there's more alcohol abuse than steroid abuse and that's much more dangerous, he said there's nothing wrong with steroid use, just as long as it doesn't turn to abuse! That was great!

 

[G.E.R.M]

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i think its only real value was that it couldnt be tested for..

i was told that other than that its nothing super special..

a progesterone derivitive that resembles tren in form and function.

but then again this is just what i was told.

 

[drgoodbody]

Yeah that was pretty cool of Dryer - he said he had used Dianabol and Maxibolan among other things back in the 60's, and highlighted that there is a big difference between steroid use and steroid abuse.

DrG

PS: about THG,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/3210876.stm

Also, THG is NOT a progesterone derivative. Here is something posted by Spidey at EF on it:
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Gestrinone is a known steroid; look it up in the Merk Index. It has the same double bond pattern as trenbolone as well as the same missing 19-methyl group. The 13-methyl in most steroids is replaced by a 13-ethyl in gestrinone and it is 17-alkylated with an acetylene (ethyne) group.

Now, if one were to fully hydrogenate the ethyne group (adding 4 hydrogens), that could technically be called tetrahydrogestrinone. What one would get from that conversion is basically a 17-ethyl trenbolone with the minor change of 13-methyl --> 13-ethyl. These small, biologically negligable changes (13-methyl --> 13-ethyl and 17-methyl --> 17 ethyl) would have the effect of changing its mass spec profile so as to make it undetectable unless you already knew what to look for. I expect that was the whole objective.

One thing I don't understand though is why they were injecting it. Being 17-alkylated, it would have been just as bioavailable taken orally. Maybe it was a liver toxicity concern. The analogous steroid, metribolone (17-methyl trenbolone) is reported to be madly livertoxic. One report I read claimed it made taking large doses of anadrol and halo look like candy.
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[jawbreakerkid]

one correction: they weren't injecting it. They were using a syringe to spray it under the tongue.