Tren= sore, puffy, lactating nipples

SitySlicker1 · Mar 9, 2007

Getting tender nips and lactating on a tren, prop, winny cycle. Been running aromasin 25mg/ed since beginning of cycle. So, its got to be the tren. Just started supplementing B6 300mg/ed for a week w/ no improvement. What should i do now, beside dropping tren?

Should i try Cabergoline or Bromo at this point? (Lots of controversal threads and post on this subjust, which has left me confused)

SitySlicker1 · Mar 9, 2007

4th wk into cycle

tren 75mg/ed
prop 100mg/ed
winny 100mg/ed
aromasin 25mg/ed
B6 300mg/ed

km2000 · Mar 9, 2007

SitySlicker1 said:
4th wk into cycle

tren 75mg/ed
prop 100mg/ed
winny 100mg/ed
aromasin 25mg/ed
B6 300mg/ed

i would guess it is the hcg causing the probs, damn your lactating? that is some serious shit... if that was me I would cease the cycles and let your tits get back in check, thats just me though, maybe someone else has had this and has a solution better than mine.....

GoneForever · Mar 9, 2007

If its lactating its from progesterone. Back down on the aromasin. 25ed is a lot and wont help with prolactin induced gyno. Back it to 25 EOD and start using a prolactin inhibitor like cabergoline at .5mg 3x per week. That will take care of the gyno. IBE sells it.

Kaiser · Mar 9, 2007

Cabergoline and Masteron

SitySlicker1 · Mar 10, 2007

Thanks guys for your input. I luv tren, so cabergoline it is!

SitySlicker1 · Mar 10, 2007

fourthgen said:
If its lactating its from progesterone. Back down on the aromasin. 25ed is a lot and wont help with prolactin induced gyno. Back it to 25 EOD and start using a prolactin inhibitor like cabergoline at .5mg 3x per week. That will take care of the gyno. IBE sells it.

Have you tied IBE cabergoline? Kinda pricey for anti-e...

Ashop · Mar 10, 2007

SitySlicker1 said:
Getting tender nips and lactating on a tren, prop, winny cycle. Been running aromasin 25mg/ed since beginning of cycle. So, its got to be the tren. Just started supplementing B6 300mg/ed for a week w/ no improvement. What should i do now, beside dropping tren?

Should i try Cabergoline or Bromo at this point? (Lots of controversal threads and post on this subjust, which has left me confused)

I would say bromo or dostinex is your best option.

mike1107 · Mar 10, 2007

Alin said:
I would say bromo or dostinex is your best option.

bromo didn't do shit in my case ... u love dostinex ? ever tried IBE's cabergoline ?

OuchThatHurts · Mar 10, 2007

SitySlicker1 said:
Have you tied IBE cabergoline? Kinda pricey for anti-e...

Cabergoline is NOT an anti-e. Your problems are from the tren. I've seen it before. Progestins and prolactin are probably high. Arimidex will do NOTHING for what you have. No matter how much or how little. HCG will rarely cause enough test to be produced to cause gyno. In fact, I've never heard of that happening. That doesn't mean it hasn't. I would try the cabergoline (Dostinex) and kaiser mentioned Masteron. Masteron or Proviron would bind to the aromatase enzyme, lowering estrogen, as well as SHBG and albumin which binds to much of your circulating test. Neither Masteron or Proviron can convert to estrogen either.

I think Dostinex, Proviron, and Masteron are some of the best compounds to keep in the old toolbox.

Plenty of articles on all three right here.

SitySlicker1 · Mar 10, 2007

OuchThatHurts said:
Cabergoline is NOT an anti-e. Your problems are from the tren. I've seen it before. Progestins and prolactin are probably high. Arimidex will do NOTHING for what you have. No matter how much or how little. HCG will rarely cause enough test to be produced to cause gyno. In fact, I've never heard of that happening. That doesn't mean it hasn't. I would try the cabergoline (Dostinex) and kaiser mentioned Masteron. Masteron or Proviron would bind to the aromatase enzyme, lowering estrogen, as well as SHBG and albumin which binds to much of your circulating test. Neither Masteron or Proviron can convert to estrogen either.

I think Dostinex, Proviron, and Masteron are some of the best compounds to keep in the old toolbox.

Plenty of articles on all three right here.

Great advice, Thank you. Just added powder proviron to my toolbox from a board sponsor here and have been running it @ 50mg/2xed this week. Now, I got to get my hands on some cabergoline and masteron.

I've have one more question for you guys about causes of prolactin.

I'm starting to question if i'm getting this prolactin symtoms from low carb restrictive diet and 30 mins of heavy volume training mon-fri. Or is it the tren??

On my cheat meals on the weeks, my sex drive goes way up.

But on week days w/ low cals and intense training sex drive is nill.

Could this heavy training and low cal (300 below bmr) mon-fri, be a fator in prolactin issue?

*Note taking cytomel 25mg morning and one at noon*

GoneForever · Mar 10, 2007

Its definately from the tren. And yes, i've tried IBE's cabergoline. Thats all I use. I still have a sex drive on tren/deca and I will lactate if not using it. You still may lactate a little, but running .5mg 2-3 times per week will pretty much insure you wont get permanent prolactin induced gyno. Plus one bottle will last 10-15weeks for only $50.

SitySlicker1 · Mar 10, 2007

fourthgen said:
Its definately from the tren. And yes, i've tried IBE's cabergoline. Thats all I use. I still have a sex drive on tren/deca and I will lactate if not using it. You still may lactate a little, but running .5mg 2-3 times per week will pretty much insure you wont get permanent prolactin induced gyno. Plus one bottle will last 10-15weeks for only $50.

Thanks bro,

I was about to put in an order w/ chem one, but the price was $120 a bottle

Good feeback. Tired of spend so much freakin money on acinnaries sp? But, This however seems like a great deal. Putting in an order w/ IBE asap.

GoneForever · Mar 10, 2007

SitySlicker1 said:
Thanks bro,

I was about to put in an order w/ chem one, but the price was $120 a bottle

Good feeback. Tired of spend so much freakin money on acinnaries sp? But, This however seems like a great deal. Putting in an order w/ IBE asap.

Chemone is also very good. Their's is more expensive b/c their bottle is double the size of IBE's, so either place is good.

OuchThatHurts · Mar 10, 2007

You'll be fine with IBE. SitySlicker1, can I ask you to post a followup in this thread? It would be good to match your results with what others have posted. Many ppl here are using tren so it will help them to know what solved your problems. Tren can have some nasty sides.

One thing that I did find out is that the discoloration of your urine during use is not indicitave that it is hurting your kidneys. It may very well be myth because the symptom has to do with the rust colored oxidized metabolites of trenbolone which are excreted in urine and often mistaken for blood.

There is very little research on this compound in humans from what I can see.

SitySlicker1 · Mar 11, 2007

OuchThatHurts said:
You'll be fine with IBE. SitySlicker1, can I ask you to post a followup in this thread? It would be good to match your results with what others have posted. Many ppl here are using tren so it will help them to know what solved your problems. Tren can have some nasty sides.

One thing that I did find out is that the discoloration of your urine during use is not indicitave that it is hurting your kidneys. It may very well be myth because the symptom has to do with the rust colored oxidized metabolites of trenbolone which are excreted in urine and often mistaken for blood.

There is very little research on this compound in humans from what I can see.

I will definetly keep you guys updated on my results.

As far as tren goes, it is my most favorite aas and has always given me incredible results, but not without a price tag. I did experiences sides like dark urination, occassional tren cough, and night sweats. But with a little trial & error and some research, I was able to lesson sides for example drinking more water and eating less b4 going to bed (esp. carbs) for night sweats.

Never had this progesterone/prolactin related gyno b4....so I'm stumped on this one. I'm going with everyones advice and will be receiving IBE cabergoline and powder masteron sometime next week.

I will be running cabergoline e4d @ .5mg and continue to run my cycle accordingly, but will be dropping winny and adding masteron.

In the meantime, I've already cut back on test prop and tren from ed to eod. Will Bump back up doses when gear comes in next week. I will keep you guys up dated on results.

SitySlicker1 · Mar 11, 2007

mike1107 said:
bromo didn't do shit in my case ... u love dostinex ? ever tried IBE's cabergoline ?

Hey Mike,

I saw you were having the same problem w/ progesterone related gyno in an earlier thread and was supplementing bromo. Were you able to stop the gyno?

SitySlicker1 · Apr 9, 2007

Kaiser said:
Cabergoline and Masteron

Kaiser,

Thanks for the advice. Made my masteron prop. homebrew a couple of weeks ago and feeling great! No more lactation or puffy nips, poping wood like a 16yr old boy, and most importantly well-being is back and feeling healthy again.

Never got my hands on cabergoline, but masteron @ 500mg/wk and aromasin 25mg/ed and problem solved.