trt and having kids

[bbg420]

lets say your on trt for life ,what are the chances for a normal healthy guy to have children on trt ,I would love to hear peoples experience with this

 

[surf256]

I've been wondering about this too. I want to hop back on cycle but my wife and I want to have a kid soon and don't want to hop on and get shut down. I was wondering if you could run hcg with a cycle to get the testes or keep the testes naturally working so sperm count can be high.

 

[railslave]

I can chime in here. 3 years on 200mg a week test cyp prescribed by my endo. Wife is due in june. Its a girl!!!!. So yes it can happen. No hcg or hmg use by the way. Just aromasin for estrogen.

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[surf256]

I can chime in here. 3 years on 200mg a week test cyp prescribed by my endo. Wife is due in june. Its a girl!!!!. So yes it can happen. No hcg or hmg use by the way. Just aromasin for estrogen.

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Congrats Brother.

I'm meeting with my doc to talk about this and see what he says.

 

[bbg420]

I can chime in here. 3 years on 200mg a week test cyp prescribed by my endo. Wife is due in june. Its a girl!!!!. So yes it can happen. No hcg or hmg use by the way. Just aromasin for estrogen.

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ya that's awesome bro ,I was thinking hcg and clomid together might really help chances

 

[z54071]

lets say your on trt for life ,what are the chances for a normal healthy guy to have children on trt ,I would love to hear peoples experience with this

I have used HRT for a while now and my wife and i were worried about the same thing. After multiple no positive preggo test i went in and had my boys checked. Dr. gave me gtg note and said that the HCG is whats keeping them alive and well. Time will tell but my wife and i feel confident. Good luck!

 

[rock75]

Hormone and sperm production are not the same thing, if you are worried about your sperm then go see a specialist, low T go see your gen practitioner or endo.

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[bbg420]

I have used HRT for a while now and my wife and i were worried about the same thing. After multiple no positive preggo test i went in and had my boys checked. Dr. gave me gtg note and said that the HCG is whats keeping them alive and well. Time will tell but my wife and i feel confident. Good luck!

what dose of hcg do you take and how long do you run it

 

[Hungry4Life]

It's different for everyone. No one can say for sure. For example, using large amounts of tren obviously reduces your chances more than using just test. hCG/hMG/Clomid/Aromasin are used for fertility.

 

[HammerT1]

Men have had gotten their GF or wife pregnant on copious amounts of gear. I know of several personally who did before hcg was even used.
Lots of men have success on trt in that regards. There is also those who prefer to stop taking trt, do a restart, get wife pregnant then go back ok trt. I've seen that choice posted a lot on other froums.

 

[rock75]

Men have had gotten their GF or wife pregnant on copious amounts of gear. I know of several personally who did before hcg was even used.
Lots of men have success on trt in that regards. There is also those who prefer to stop taking trt, do a restart, get wife pregnant then go back ok trt. I've seen that choice posted a lot on other froums.

True!!

Low T can hinder sperms count, exo T can hinder sperm count - if anyone has a serious concern they need to seek professional medical advice and get their sperm count tested.

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[vegas83]

I have seen lots of guys on the boards have success with HCG/Clomid without even coming off TRT. If I were to try this it would be 250iu eod and 50mg Clomid. I would also add .5mg adex eod for E2 from the Clomi/hcg

 

[abbot138]

Didn't change a thing, 150 cyp, .5 adex, 500 hcg, all split into twice a week doses. Wife got pregnant on second ovulation cycle. Proud papa of a beautiful 7 months old girl. Will be going again in the fall! .....NOW, the question is, does exo test make it more likely you'll have a girl? LOL....In my experience its at least 5x1 girl to guy for lifers. Could just be coincidence of course. But I know this, Im stopping after 3 girls if it comes to it.....IMO, you're either fertile or you're not. I know biologically exo test should have an impact but it just doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[TheNeed]

I just listened to a John Meadows interview where he covered this subject - in 2002 he came all the way off in order to get his wife prego. His sperm count was real lowand he was feeling reallt shitty after like 8-9 months clean and she still wasn't prego and he was loaded up on HCG / clomid etc.

So one weekend he got all pissed off @ the situation and took 3 shots of Test E. He went to the dr to get his levels tested the following week and the dr w s like WTF did you do - his test was @ 7000ng/dl - the following week after the 1st 1/2 life he got his wife prego - test leve @ approx 3500 ng/dl. Something happened where she lost it but by this time he was experimenting with test levels and how they effected his sperm count. For him he says 400mg testosterone cyp every 10 days keeps his level @ 800 ng/dl which is perfect for him and they successfully had a set of twins.

This was really interesting to me because you read everywhere that any extraneous testosterone you take will "shut you down" and you are screwed. That just goes to show all this bro science is bullshit for the most part. That would also indicate that for him, the 100mg - 1/2 cc of test cyp that an endo would normally give a TRT patient is way low for a person like John. I think the way it works is if your test level is steady and in range like 400ng/dl-1200 ng/dl this will create the perfect condition, or put your body in the right place to possibly produce healthy swimmers @ the right number.

There is so much bullshit information out there - every mental thinks they know what they are talking about cause they read it somewhere. This may indicate that if you maintain a TRT level of test - maybe 300 mg every 7 days, you can probably run a cycle outside of this test, and your body would possibly be in a good place to get your chick prego or @ least you would not be shut down. I can't tell you how much this interview surprised me.

I don't know if the admins will bust my balls for posting this here but this is the URL for this interview. Meadows is on 2nd after Tres Bennett. Bennett was a great interview also - he's 1 step below JM. Manion in the NPC promoters pecking order.

Episode 19* Tres Bennett & John Meadows « Real World Muscle