Unusual Question- AAS and Plasma

[jay_dub]

Heres the deal, I'm a broke full time college student with no time on my hands. I dont have a job, so recently I've been giving plasma for an extra $60 a week. This money basically payed for my current cycle. I've been off for about 4 months now and just had my first poke 4 days ago. I'm running test, tren, and dbol. Would giving plasma have any negative affects on this? I always workout before I donate, so it never affects my workouts. I've only been donating for 3 months, with no problems, but I just was wondering if it would interfere with the supps? Pretty ridiculous I know, but hey I really have no other options, and if its going to hinder my gains I'll stop.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Trying to sound smart....coulda just said blood lol

Hmmm giving blood to pay for your cycle....thats about as far as iv seen someone take this in order to get juice lol..... soon people gonna be taking after crackheads and....well...nvm lol

 

[nosmas]

but hey I really have no other options.

Ok, let me see if I get this... You sell your blood for money on a weekly basis and sell it for steroids.
No other options... how about... dont buy steroids. Part time job?
I think the loss of blood is affecting your common sence.
My advice to you is to re-evaluate your life.

 

[jay_dub]

Haha I dont just use the money for steroids, I'm just saying it helped pay for them... $60 a week to earn a little extra on the side to have more spending money. At the moment I just dont have time for a part time job, thats why I do this instead, it only takes 1 hour, twice a week, $30 each time.

But anyway plasma and blood are two completely different things. With this it takes a small amount of your blood out, seperates the plasma, and puts your own blood back into you, so essentially I'm not losing any blood.

I guess I do have another option, which would be just not to go at all. Nice to have a little extra money for food and shit each month though.

 

[joeshow5]

If they find out you are using they will ban you.

Plasma is the liquid part of the blood. They separate it in the centrifuge then pump your red blood cells back into with an anticogulant.

 

[jay_dub]

If they find out you are using they will ban you.

Plasma is the liquid part of the blood. They separate it in the centrifuge then pump your red blood cells back into with an anticogulant.

Yea I wonder if losing that part has any type of effect? I'm really not too worried about it, more curious than anything...

 

[GeeNo]

Yea I wonder if losing that part has any type of effect? I'm really not too worried about it, more curious than anything...

When you are giving plasma, essentially you are just dehydrating yourself to a small degree. Plasma is composed of 95% water, in addition to other constituents such as blood proteins, amino acids, vitamins, and minerals (e.g. electrolytes).

 

[hngrygrl]

Heres the deal, I'm a broke full time college student with no time on my hands. I dont have a job, so recently I've been giving plasma for an extra $60 a week. This money basically payed for my current cycle. I've been off for about 4 months now and just had my first poke 4 days ago. I'm running test, tren, and dbol. Would giving plasma have any negative affects on this? I always workout before I donate, so it never affects my workouts. I've only been donating for 3 months, with no problems, but I just was wondering if it would interfere with the supps? Pretty ridiculous I know, but hey I really have no other options, and if its going to hinder my gains I'll stop.

well I can tell you that the last time I sold my plasma I ended up having a huge period of time in between the time my blood got check for clotting and when I actually finished. I was leaving, my hole in my arm opened back up, i had blood all over my arm, I passed out, my whole body went blue and then two hours later I drove home, smoked two cigarettes on the way there (shut up, dont yell at me) and then proceeded to pull over and get extremely sick--i dont even want to go into the details. there is a chance the AAS could affect your body while donating. When they put the RBC back into you they also add some saline and a solution call ACD into your body. Its what gives you that weird taste in your mouth when the bloods going back in. at least I have a weird taste--metallic like. ACD is an anti clotting agent so that could put you at some risk while on cycle. For instance, i've seen those scarey needles before--OUCH!!!--and there normally I would assume is a certain amt of blood after you inj. Your body normally can clot this off very quickly but normally they give you about 500ml of ACD each time and you're doing that 3x per week I'm assuming (thats how often its legal to do it here) so youre getting about 1500 ml of non clotting factor a week. what I was trying to say before I started my girly rambling is that your body my not stop bleeding at quickly after you remove the needle. Not sure about the chemistry, lemme look it up and I'll get back to you.

 

[hngrygrl]

Ok, let me see if I get this... You sell your blood for money on a weekly basis and sell it for steroids.
No other options... how about... dont buy steroids. Part time job?
I think the loss of blood is affecting your common sence.
My advice to you is to re-evaluate your life.

 

[hngrygrl]

okay, you're on too many things for me to look up all of them so here is a comparison on test E. with coumadin. Coumadin is a blood thinner and I believe works the same way in your body at the ACD. sorry if this isnt any help. ----oh, and I wouldnt be on cycle and sell your plasma. sorry. =(



3.5.1.Q Warfarin
1) Interaction Effect: an increased risk of bleeding
2) Summary: A number of case reports have demonstrated that coadministration of oral anticoagulants and 17-alkylated androgens (fluoxymesterone, oxandrolone, oxymetholone, methyltestosterone, methandrostenolone, stanozolol) has resulted in a prolonged prothrombin time and hemorrhages (Schrogie & Solomon, 1967g; Lorentz & Weibert, 1985g; Robinson et al, 1971g; Longridge et al, 1971g; Edwards & Curtis, 1971g). Testosterone has been reported to suppress the clotting factors II, V, VII, and X, which may lead to bleeding in patients on concomitant anticoagulant therapy (Prod Info Delatestryl(R), 1995c).
3) Severity: moderate
4) Onset: delayed
5) Substantiation: theoretical
6) Clinical Management: Concurrent use of anabolic steroids and warfarin should be avoided when possible. If the drugs must be used together, frequent monitoring of the anticoagulant response must be maintained.
7) Probable Mechanism: unknown
8) Literature Reports

a) Anabolic steroids have been well documented to cause important interactions with dicumarol. The anabolic steroids enhance dicumarol's anticoagulant activity perhaps through reductions in clotting factor formation and increased clotting factor degradation. The 17-alpha-alkylated steroids (fluoxymesterone, oxandrolone, oxymetholone, methyltestosterone, methandrostenolone, stanozolol) appear to be more likely to induce this reaction than the non-substituted steroids (Schrogie & Solomon, 1967f; Lorentz & Weibert, 1985f; Robinson et al, 1971f; Longridge et al, 1971f; Edwards & Curtis, 1971f).
b) Significant enhancement of the anticoagulant effects of warfarin were described in a 69-year-old woman following application of a vaginal ointment of testosterone propionate (Lorentz & Weibert, 1985f). The mechanism of interaction is unclear

 

[jay_dub]

Hey thanks alot hngrygrl, that helps clears things up. Basically it will just increase my risk of bleeding if I were to get cut or something.

Around here its only legal to go twice a week, but the next month I probably wont be going at all, if I do, I'll keep it to once a week. I dont think that should cause any problems.

And you're right about that nasty taste from the ACD, I always wondered if that was normal.