when to use caber?

[jack98]

I see it posted over and over again that you should only use caber if you really, really need to on a tren cycle. so its made me gun shy of adding it in.

barring getting a blood test, is there anyway to tell if you need caber? I feel fine, but im oddly a lil watery/bloated for being on a low test / medium dose tren cycle. so i can tell something is off and since im on trt level test, id be suprised if its my e2

 

[Crazy_jay]

While its a debatable topic, I believe if e2 is in check, caber or prami is not needed. I have taken tren a dozen times, ive gotten gyno from it many times. Ive tried pharm grade caber, ive tried pharm grade prami( easy to know legit prami from sides) and still got gyno. Only time I havent got gyno from tren is when ive increased my ai. Ive read some good write ups on tren and my understanding is tren can do a couple different things and two of those possibilities are, increase sensitivity to estrogen, so even if bloodwork looks good, increased sensitivity would require lower estrogen, the other, displacing test because tren has a higher affinity for the ar receptor leaving more test floating around to be converted to estrogen.

Ive taken test with no ai, had estrogen over 100 and while I was a watery mess, no gyno but tren with estrogen at 25, low dose test, low dose ai, cyber or prami, gyno. Low dose test, increased ai, no caber, no prami, no tren gyno. My personal experience.