Not from GH, but I get that feeling from GHRP-6 (like I'm going to pass out if I don't eat RIGHT FUCKING NOW!).
A lot of GH these days is actually GHRP. I'm not saying yours is fake, I don't even know what brand it is. But it's something to think about.
Doesn't matter if you don't hold water on pharm grade. Hell, I don't hold water on pharm grade either when I ran 5 different brands in the past. I base what I say on FACTUAL scientific studies and from what I have personally seen with my own 2 eyes. Your opinion of generics is fine as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But don't tell people that fillers from generics are what cause bloat because that is bogus.
well when you can explain too me why generics cause nothing but bloat please tell me why cause from my exp. thats the only thing you get from them
well when you can explain too me why generics cause nothing but bloat please tell me why cause from my exp. thats the only thing you get from them
Why is that? If gh is all equal, except for purity wouldn't they all have the same effect on users? These are questions no one seems to be able to answer.Yes 30IU of riptropin will give you same blood readings as 30IU of humatrope, but the effects arent the same (look-wise).
Why is that? If gh is all equal, except for purity wouldn't they all have the same effect on users? These are questions no one seems to be able to answer.
I stopped using generics because it wasn't passing the mirror test.
I've run humatrope and many other pharm grade gh in the past. Never once have I ever experienced hypoglycemia. Gh does not make me hungry.
1) GH (Somatropin) causes bloat depending on doseage. ALWAYS.
3) By products of GH production are toxins, which cause BLOAT, most somatropin is produced by recombinant gene expression in ecoli, these bacteria produce a lot of toxins in the manufacturing process and the byproduct after ecoli are destroyed is the somatropin, the greater the filteration, the higher the purity of product with lesser amount of toxins.
Yes 30IU of riptropin will give you same blood readings as 30IU of humatrope, but the effects arent the same (look-wise).
Why is that? If gh is all equal, except for purity wouldn't they all have the same effect on users? These are questions no one seems to be able to answer.
I stopped using generics because it wasn't passing the mirror test.
The difference in structure would explain a lot.All gh is not equal. There is the issue with fillers. Generics have more filler than pharm grade. Also, alpha mentioned that the molecular structure of generic gh is slightly different than pharm grade gh. Purity is also not the same. Serum levels are not as important as igf levels when determining the quality of gh IMO, as gh itself is pretty much useless until it signals to the liver to produce igf.
The difference in structure would explain a lot.
I'd be curious to know why at some point generics worked so well for me but then last year seemed to have no physical benefits even at higher doses.
My guess is the gh was no longer binding to the gh receptors.
I think Jefe's argument has some major holes in it, as they have been shown in this thread. But, to assume the filler is not harmful is pretty naive, no telling what all has been used, over the years.
I do seen to remember talk ages ago of insulin being left over from manufacturing process. How insulin is used in the process I have no idea. I'll see what i can dig up when i get time
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