2021 Nationals

[tenny]

its nit picky.....but just more thickness in the mid region.
it will take years to improve....but if he can, (sadly i cant see it happening)
but if he can, he will be a threat

 

[Dugbet]

Wow, Justin impressed me more than Carlos

I can see why Carlos won, Justin is not that big, but as soon as that happens, I think he has a better structure and lines.

 

[b-boy]

its nit picky.....but just more thickness in the mid region.
it will take years to improve....but if he can, (sadly i cant see it happening)
but if he can, he will be a threat

Cbum made serious improvements to his back in 1 year! It can be done you just have to be motivated and CONSISTENT! It is a difficult task I agree 100, but still it can be done.

 

[Dugbet]

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[b-boy]

Wow, Justin impressed me more than Carlos

He looked fucking AWESOME

but Carlos has #PROFESSIONALMUSCLE

 

[tenny]

Cbum made serious improvements to his back in 1 year! It can be done you just have to be motivated and CONSISTENT! It is a difficult task I agree 100, but still it can be done.

yes....can be....i wonder what his back training.(besides the norm shit) consisted of...

hes gonna need to get creative to improve it

 

[b-boy]

To be so short and so thick with a waist that tiny is just silly

 

[b-boy]

hes gonna need to get creative to improve it

100% agree

 

[Dugbet]

He looked fucking AWESOME

but Carlos has #PROFESSIONALMUSCLE

When they are comparing the pro muscle of Carlos stands out, but looking at them separately, I like Justin's body more.

It is for this reason that the judges put the athletes next to each other.

 

[tenny]

When they are comparing the pro muscle of Carlos stands out, but looking at them separately, I like Justin's body more.

It is for this reason that the judges put the athletes next to each other.

i agree......he has a better flow......but the pure mass cannot be beat

 

[tenny]

heres a question.....Bboy should nail this one....

what would be the number one determining factor for back improvement???
in other words....what would cause him NOT to improve???

 

[b-boy]

heres a question.....Bboy should nail this one....

what would be the number one determining factor for back improvement???
in other words....what would cause him NOT to improve???

It could come down to a number of things
1. He doesn't have a good muscle mind connection with his back
2. During training he doesn't effectively target his back muscles letting more dominant muscle such as biceps and forearms take over movements (doesn't use his elbows to drive the weight backwards)
3. He continues to do the same thing he has always done. (As you said he needs to get creative with his back training hitting it from all kinds of weird angles..aka @DOGGCRAPP)

 

[maldorf]

There was a reason why I featured him in this thread I started. The man packs a fuck ton of muscle on his frame, so much that I knew he would be very hard to beat! NATE (2ND place guy) was peeled but he couldn't overcome a guy packing that much muscle on a small waist frame. Carlos is a FREAK!

When you posted those 1st pics months ago I figured they might as well just give him the trophy then. But then you posted those 24 hr out photos and he was very underwhelming. He sure pulled it all together in the end!

 

[tenny]

It could come down to a number of things
1. He doesn't have a good muscle mind connection with his back
2. During training he doesn't effectively target his back muscles letting more dominant muscle such as biceps and forearms take over movements (doesn't use his elbows to drive the weight backwards)
3. He continues to do the same thing he has always done. (As you said he needs to get creative with his back training hitting it from all kinds of weird angles..aka @DOGGCRAPP)

what about AGE....how old is he??

can he grow new muscle??...already having so much mass???

 

[pesty4077]

what about AGE....how old is he??

can he grow new muscle??...already having so much mass???

Curious about his age too. I think he is fairly young.

 

[tenny]

Curious about his age too. I think he is fairly young.

if hes in 20s....it CAN be done....if hes 30s...or pushing 30s....im not too sure.

he could "shape" certain muscles in the back...but actual growth...hmmm

the thing is....with everything else being so developed...why did the back not grow?

fact is....everybody has a weakness....whether its external...or internal...

its the game we play.

 

[b-boy]

if hes in 20s....it CAN be done....if hes 30s...or pushing 30s....im not too sure.

he could "shape" certain muscles in the back...but actual growth...hmmm

the thing is....with everything else being so developed...why did the back not grow?

fact is....everybody has a weakness....whether its external...or internal...

its the game we play.

At his stage in the game he must get fucking peeled and DRY, that in itself will make his back look better and have more pop!
Also who knows what his drug usage is? If he has kept dosages from going to the moon and just heavily relied on insulin and HGH for a good amount of his growth then he can drug some more lean tissue onto that body of his. I don't know

 

[tenny]

At his stage in the game he must get fucking peeled and DRY, that in itself will make his back look better and have more pop!
Also who knows what his drug usage is? If he has kept dosages from going to the moon and just heavily relied on insulin and HGH for a good amount of his growth then he can drug some more lean tissue onto that body of his. I don't know

agreed...it will be interesting to watch and see

 

[LATS]

Carlos is that freak that comes long every 5 years or so.. just has that God given roundness and waist..
As for his back.. like bboy said it's going to come down to if he can start feeling the muscle stretch and contract.. it might be just a weak bodypart.. or.. it could be his biceps ( which are crazy) are taking over taking the mind connection away..
So yes he can improve it.. Phil heath had a weak back and crazy biceps also.. and Phil ended up with a pretty damn good back.. so it can be done.. and if it is watch out..
That being said I also like the line up this year.. lots of talent.. 44 competitors in the light heavies alone.. great show.. took me back to the 90s a bit.. lots of enthusiasm and energy at this show..

 

[heavyhitter]

what about AGE....how old is he??

can he grow new muscle??...already having so much mass???

Hes 27