I’m on the backside of my bodybuilding days and no longer compete. No I don’t use t3 or insulin. Just baby doses of test. I guess we need to distinguish between hgh usage for guys no longer pushing gear hard vs guys who are still in the middle or starting their journey.
As I said, for the high level guys, I very much realize what’s necessary.
But, your right, in my competitive days, I never pushed gh or gear for that matter, so I can’t say, personally what 8iu+ does. My point was, there have been a string of guys here pushing the gh to bottles or more a day and it’s unimpressive in my eyes, aside from DanielTex and one or two high level guys who have everything in order.