strongrhino
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So now you have a medical practice? Funny you don't sound medically or scientifically educated.
man you're funny.
what does it mean to sound like you have practice finding a vein in a patient???
Have you ever met some EMT??? Apparently not
anyways carry on strongrhino. Its not a big deal I dont care how you take your GH.:banghead: I meant to share my own personal experience not trying to be internet jumped by some "big guy" for doing that. Everybody is tough behind a computer keyboard right strongrhino
Actually the literature for humatrope and genotropin specifically say sub q or IM and the dosages are intented for that purpose. For IV the dose would have to be adjusted accordingly and for daily users it is an inpractical and irresponsable way for administration. So who here does IV injections? I am not using bias or "my feelings" but facts based upon literature given out by the drug companies for administering the peptides. Show me one scientific document stating peps should be given this way. Bet ya can't. Sorry to hurt your "feelings." And for an anuerism you can certainly get one without injecting an entire syringe of air. Actually 2 cc or so can kill-as well as peps that are not entirely dissolved wih solids. Sorry to bust your bubble.
I love the hypocritically pious nature of all of the people who stick needles in their thighs, biceps, traps, delts, tris, and then get all high and mighty when a person discusses IV administration.
I could care less about having feelings hurt, I have no vested interest in this one way or another, I am just trying to ascertain the best method of administering something, sorry it has offended your obviously high moral sensibilities. I love the hypocritically pious nature of all of the people who stick needles in their thighs, biceps, traps, delts, tris, and then get all high and mighty when a person discusses IV administration. hmm, a syringe filled with air, seems to me I am sitting here looking a slin syringe with which peptide dosing would be done with and it is a whopping 1CC. So I would actually have to inject this entire syringe, then get another one, and inject it, and I would have serious complications. I think that is a risk I can pretty well avoid.
though the inserts mostly all talk about IM injection, look up the actual studies on pubmed and almost all HGH studies and many of the peptide studies are all performed IV. Actually I just answered my own question by arguing with you, there are several studies that discuss IV use so I will just follow those protocol and see if they are more effective than traditional usage.
its not a human study but this is why I started to do it.
Intravenous growth hormone: growth responses to patterned infusions in hypophysectomized rats, R. G. Clark, J.-O. Jansson, O. Isaksson and I. C. A. F. Robinson, Journal of Endocrinology (1985) 104, 53-61
Young hypophysectomized rats were maintained with chronic indwelling i.v. cannulae attached via swivels to a multichannel pumping system programmed to deliver GH in a continuous or pulsatile pattern for several days.
Continuous i.v. infusions of human GH for 5 days produced dose-dependent increases in body weight and tail length, without increasing food intake. A comparison of GH infusions by the s.c. or i.v. route showed that the direct i.v. route was threefold more effective.
Pulsatile i.v. infusions of human or bovine GH at two doses (12 or 36 mu./day, eight pulses/day, 5-min duration, every 3 h) produced greater increases in body weight than continuous i.v. infusions of GH at the same daily dose.
Continuous infusions of bovine GH produced a lower growth rate in the second of two consecutive 5-day treatment periods, whereas the responses to pulsatile GH did not diminish with time.
Both body weight gain and long-bone growth were affected by the frequency of GH pulses; nine pulses per day were more effective than three pulses per day which in turn produced larger growth responses than one pulse per day.
Keeping GH pulse frequency constant and varying pulse duration (4, 16 or 64 min) did not affect growth rates.
In conclusion, long-term pulsatile i.v. infusions of GH mimic the endogenous secretory pattern, and are most effective when given at the physiologically appropriate pulse frequency.
I saw a huge difference after doing gh for two years strait then switching to iv method.. but that's my opinion
I am 35. You are a moron and a dick and it has nothing to do with tren. 1rhino and strongrhino, methinks someone is using mutlitple user ID's.I don't think a single person has taken this high and mighty stand point concerning iv usage you speak of. I think that is a shadow that only you have cast in the way you have said it bubba. Don't take that the wrong way.
Now if you are willing to drop some knowledge and not just throw words around and become agitated at us pompous pricks spouting off our high and mighty thoughts, I think that a link to an IV usage article would definitely back your point without anybody having to feel offended or dickish.
That always solves a good argument, in all the reading I have done I have never come across a bodybuilder saying that they use this stuff IV. It would be nice for one of you nineteen year old whipper shnapper scholars to work those nimble little key tapping fingers up in a flurry of knowledge based spit to be spat upon these old one way standard set years experienced hgh users.
Come now, drop the bomb baby! Really fuckin stuff it down their throats! You are the champions! The youth of a nation! Yes! Yes!
Tren makes me a dick, I'm sorry. I am being a dick.