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2nd and 3rd cycle

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I'm planning a future cycle, I won't be starting until at least 6/1. It will be in the last 4 weeks of my current diet.

I've been reading about the benefits of shorter cycles on here and on the internet. This is my proposed cycle:

WK 1-4: Test Prop 75mg ED
WK 1-4: Tren Ace 50mg ED
WK 1-4: Oral? Anavar 50-60mg ED or Winny 40-60mg ED
WK 1-4: T3 50-75mcg daily... probably ramping up
WK 1-4: Aromasin 10 or 12.5mg ED (depending on the dosage i get)
WK 5-8: Novladex 40/40/20/20 (80mg on the first day)

WK 9-12: repeat 1-4 (depending on BF%, may not run t3 and/or an oral)
WK 13-16: repeat 5-8

Now my questions:

Caber, if I was to run this with my cycles (i would like to) how much per week should i use? .5mg twice a week?

Would 40/40/20/20 of novladex be a sufficient PCT (I did this with my first cycle) or should I add in clomid?

Current Stats:
25 y/o
14% BF (currently dieting)
219lbs.

Squat: 375x1 (tore my hamstring about 9 months ago)
Bench: 335x1
Deadlift: 475x1
OH Press: 215x1

Carb cycling diet:
High day - 275g pro, 550g carb
Med day - 330g pro, 220g carb, 77g fat
low day - 330g pro, 110g carb, 77g fat

Any help is much appriciated, thanks in advance. :st:r-wars
 
Sounds like a good well thought out cycle bro. Make shure you have everything before you start! It sucks when you start and something falls through and fucks you well thouht cycle up. keep us posted on how it goes
Whats your stats now?
 
CABER WILL KILL SEX DRIVE. LOOK INTO PRAMI.
CABER IS NOT VERY STABLE IN SOLUTION HARD TO GET GOOD STUFF.
 
Sounds like a good well thought out cycle bro. Make shure you have everything before you start! It sucks when you start and something falls through and fucks you well thouht cycle up. keep us posted on how it goes
Whats your stats now?

Thanks man. I listed a few of my stats on the initial post...

5'11
219lbs.
~14% BF (currently dieting)

Squat 375x1
Bench 335x1
Deadlift 485x1 <- did that tonight actually
OH Press 215x1

I won't start the cycle until i have absolutely everything, no doubt about it. I like to plan things awhile in advance just to make sure i got everything covered.
 
CABER WILL KILL SEX DRIVE. LOOK INTO PRAMI.
CABER IS NOT VERY STABLE IN SOLUTION HARD TO GET GOOD STUFF.

I will check it out, thanks for the advice.
 
Have people had a lot of luck with these short cycles? They just remind me too much of designers/phs cycles, which are actually stronger then most roids.

So how long would you take off after the second cycle? Or would you just keep continuing 4 on 4 off?
 
Have people had a lot of luck with these short cycles? They just remind me too much of designers/phs cycles, which are actually stronger then most roids.

So how long would you take off after the second cycle? Or would you just keep continuing 4 on 4 off?

Well the benefit of a shorter cycle is less side effects. Granted, you don't get as pronounced gains as lets say a 12wk cycle, but you also don't get the side effects around week 8 or so (I say week 8ish because on my first cycle, 13wk test e/11wk deca i noticed alot of acne coming after week 8 also high BP).

Also with ED injections of prop and tren ace, along with an oral, i will feel the effects earlier.

As for after the 3rd cycle... I have no idea. I will take at least 4 weeks off. I haven't planned a 4th cycle yet, so i cannot say i'd do another 4wk on/off but i can't say i won't. It all depends on how my body responds to these.

Eventually, I would like to go back on test E or sus with deca or eq and d-bol or anadrol for a bulking cycle this winter. We shall see.
 
Also, one of the sponsors has Parmi in liquid form. What is the recommended dosage?

.5mg ED or EOD?

I read that one should continue taking it during PCT, if so, at the same dosage as on cycle?
 

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