a few PCT questions...

[Cobra008]

need some input on possible PCT...

i'm near the end of my 10 week test e, 4 week dbol cycle.

I actually might cut the test short and only do 9 weeks.

I started HCG last week, first week 500iu m/th and now i'm going to run 250-350iu m/th till one week before PCT/one week after last test e shot.

I've had some problem with gyno, used nolva on and off as well as IBE formex...right now I think I found the best which is 20mgs nolva EOD and 25mgs Formex ED. sensitivity is very mild and lumps have not gotten any larger, may have gotten smaller.

For my PCT I will for sure have plenty of Clomid, some Nolva and some Formex...I might get more clomid, nolva and aromisen, but not sure when/if I will get it.

so far i'm thinking

2 weeks after last test e inj.

Nolva : 40/40/20/20
Clomid : 100/100/50/50
Formex : 25mgs ED (untill I run out, I might not even have any left come PCT because I'm using it on cycle.)
Lean Xtreme

Also if I do get aromisen, should I run it? With the initial PCT? or is it not necessary...

I also have perfect pct/Stoked. I'll probably just save that for later on

thoughts.

 

[617ricky]

The Nolva/Clomid combo should be decent.. But as you were thinking, Aromasin would be superior, especially since you had some gyno issues IMO.. If you were to get it, I'd drop the Nolva and just take Clomid/Aromasin.. Start it at maybe 12.5mg/day, and on top of making sure Estro is low during PCT, it will also raise your Test in the process..

 

[Cobra008]

Is it becomming more popular to use Aromisen/clomid for PCT??

I know Nolva/Clomid is the tried and true method in the past...but I never heard of using an AI for PCT, but now i'm hearing about aromisen (not letro or adex though)

My main concern is during PCT getting gyno issues and rebound...so wouldn't the nolva be better for gyno issues, because it's blocks all that causes gyno at the nipples, an AI just decreases estrogen, doesn't completely block it from causing gyno.

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[617ricky]

My main concern is during PCT getting gyno issues and rebound...so wouldn't the nolva be better for gyno issues, because it's blocks all that causes gyno at the nipples, an AI just decreases estrogen, doesn't completely block it from causing gyno.

Well for gyno to form and thrive, you need estrogen.. Aromasin eliminates something like 97% of Estro at the full dosage, and it literally kills off the aromatase enzyme, instead of just competing for it.. And in the process, it raises Test levels.. This is a more thorough process than what Nolva is doing.. That guy Macro has gotten into the specifics of exactly how and why it's better than Nolva - and in conjunction with Clomid for PCT, your natural production should start up more quickly, and definitely keep Estro out of the picture.. They actually also say it'd be good to stay on a low-dose of Aromasin even off cycle, since your Test levels will be higher..

 

[Cobra008]

so SHOULD I still include maybe a low dose of nolva 20mgs ED in my PCT, just to be safe??

for example:

Nolva 20/20 (first two weeks)

Clomid 100/100/50/50

Aromisen 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5