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Actual results from igf des?

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those that have take IGF des, what did you think? what doses and how long did you take it for? I dont really care about 'pumps'. I am in this for hypertrophy and lean gains. i got 5 vials from EP and i am hoping i didnt just piss away money on it.

also dont bother responding if you have a sponsor banner in your sig, or if you have an 'PM for a % discount from blah blah blah' in your sig.

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Damn you got 5 vials?? I use less than most but I had great results on just 40 mcg (split bilaterally) pre-workout for about 6 weeks. I actually improved some weak points during my PCT.

Some people claim they're non responders but I can't help but think they got bunk shit as everyone I've given it to had great results as well. It won't blow you up by itself but there was definitely a visible change in my weak points. For the price vs benefit its definitely worth it. Also it won't shut you down so great while you're off AAS.
 
Love the stuff. I have my gorilla on 50mcg daily. Crazy pumps and yes it does add to hypertrophy imo. Its a really cheap tool right now, so give it a try.

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those that have take IGF des, what did you think? what doses and how long did you take it for? I dont really care about 'pumps'. I am in this for hypertrophy and lean gains. i got 5 vials from EP and i am hoping i didnt just piss away money on it.

also dont bother responding if you have a sponsor banner in your sig, or if you have an 'PM for a % discount from blah blah blah' in your sig.

Thanks


Funny you added that and you get only 2 responses. I don't want to spoil it for you since you already invested some $$, but my experience with IGF was mediocre at best. All I got out of it was expensive pumps. followed an
8 weeks protocol 50mcg bilateral pre-workout and 300mcg of MGF post workout. No lbm gains, no body recomp NADA. FYI I was NOT using the one from Ergo. Keeps us updated on the results, I might have to reconsider my position on re-running it again if your results are good.
 
you should also eliminate guys taking des while on AAS so you can attribute any results to IGF-1 des...you got all these guys saying des is the shit mean while their taking TestE 800mg/wk, Tren600mg/wk, Mast, Provi, and a bunch of other shit lol
 
It was a waste of my money.
 
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those that have take IGF des, what did you think? what doses and how long did you take it for? I dont really care about 'pumps'. I am in this for hypertrophy and lean gains. i got 5 vials from EP and i am hoping i didnt just piss away money on it.

also dont bother responding if you have a sponsor banner in your sig, or if you have an 'PM for a % discount from blah blah blah' in your sig.

Thanks

If I were you, I would not take anything. All I see you do is bitch and moan about sponsors on here all the while allowing you the ability to research their products..........nothing makes you happy, nothing advances your bodybuilding quest.....are you even training right? Eating right? Are you even in any sort of shape? Ycay, " bignripped" but WTF does that mean? Pictures? SHow pictures and give us a better understanding of your state of mind here.
 
I've researched ostas and ergos and both were great for weight gain and vascularity.

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Ive taken a lot of IGF-1 DES, also very high dosages 300mcg a day and I didn't notice much except for a good pump.
 
you should also eliminate guys taking des while on AAS so you can attribute any results to IGF-1 des...you got all these guys saying des is the shit mean while their taking TestE 800mg/wk, Tren600mg/wk, Mast, Provi, and a bunch of other shit lol

I disagree a bit on this, since IGF-1 DES is to cause local growth then no matter what other compounds are used if the are it is being researched in grows more than the rest Id say it would be a good indicator that it is working.
 
Ergo DES to our 2 silverbacks , 4 wks at 200mcg split ,, I like the pre pin pumps but prefer the post pin longer fullness from the lab results ,, 5-8wk up the dose to 250 mcg, results show the two gorillas gained within first 9 days ,, and around the 5th week everything is growing every week after,, very impressed with the results we are seeing in our lab ,, this is an unbiased test , our lab isn't affiliated with any sponsor nor were there any gear or gh present , first 5 days ran folli as well an first 3 wks ran ostarian max ,, nothing else but 5x work out week , 3,000 Cals a day with 250-300 gr of protein .. The primates gain more muscle mass, one gorilla went from 220 to 235 , from 16.25 bicept to 17.5 ,, though it isn't freakish big , I think really nice gains overall ,, Giving our silverbacks a month off to test out sum other stuff for them for a month then month after back testing the DES on them ... Hope this testing info helps
 
Ergo DES to our 2 silverbacks , 4 wks at 200mcg split ,, I like the pre pin pumps but prefer the post pin longer fullness from the lab results ,, 5-8wk up the dose to 250 mcg, results show the two gorillas gained within first 9 days ,, and around the 5th week everything is growing every week after,, very impressed with the results we are seeing in our lab ,, this is an unbiased test , our lab isn't affiliated with any sponsor nor were there any gear or gh present , first 5 days ran folli as well an first 3 wks ran ostarian max ,, nothing else but 5x work out week , 3,000 Cals a day with 250-300 gr of protein .. The primates gain more muscle mass, one gorilla went from 220 to 235 , from 16.25 bicept to 17.5 ,, though it isn't freakish big , I think really nice gains overall ,, Giving our silverbacks a month off to test out sum other stuff for them for a month then month after back testing the DES on them ... Hope this testing info helps




Sooo, in 5~8 weeks the biceps of your subject gained over an inch??:naughty:
With all the respect, it's post like these that make me NOT re-consider taking IGF.:rolleyes:
 
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Sooo, in 5~8 weeks the biceps of your subject gained over an inch??:naughty:
With all the respect, it's post like these that make me not re-consider taking IGF.:rolleyes:

Lol believe what u want myfriend , ur a grown man , no ones making u buy anything , I know what our results with our research has yielded ,, I can't say the same for anyone elses research , the truth is if u wanna try sumthing try it if u don't thinks worth it then don't , simple as that , .. That's what our lab has always done , everyones subject responds different to everything ... We prob could've taken b4 during and after video an there would still b people skeptical about the results tryin to think up of an excuse as to y it's fake lol ,,
 
Lol believe what u want myfriend , ur a grown man , no ones making u buy anything , I know what our results with our research has yielded ,, I can't say the same for anyone elses research , the truth is if u wanna try sumthing try it if u don't thinks worth it then don't , simple as that , .. That's what our lab has always done , everyones subject responds different to everything ... We prob could've taken b4 during and after video an there would still b people skeptical about the results tryin to think up of an excuse as to y it's fake lol ,,


Fair enough.
 
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If I were you, I would not take anything. All I see you do is bitch and moan about sponsors on here all the while allowing you the ability to research their products..........nothing makes you happy, nothing advances your bodybuilding quest.....are you even training right? Eating right? Are you even in any sort of shape? Ycay, " bignripped" but WTF does that mean? Pictures? SHow pictures and give us a better understanding of your state of mind here.

I love this, two different lab reports from two different people have shown that Phil is selling bunk folli and I am the bad guy here. Sponsors? more like Sponsor without the S. I get ghrp 6 and cjc from a sponsor on this forum and its terrific. I have no complaints against them. Phil, spend less time concerned about my physique and more time thinking about repaying everyone that bought your amazing follistatin.
 
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I love this, two different lab reports from two different people have shown that Phil is selling bunk folli and I am the bad guy here. Sponsors? more like Sponsor without the S. I get ghrp 6 and cjc from a sponsor on this forum and its terrific. I have no complaints against them. Phil, spend less time concerned about my physique and more time thinking about repaying everyone that bought your amazing follistatin.

Funny how you have this dillusional image of "self"..........no one said you were a bad guy.......I simply said you bitch and moan about your lack of progress in many areas......but bad, no, I never said you were bad.
 
Funny how you have this dillusional image of "self"..........no one said you were a bad guy.......I simply said you bitch and moan about your lack of progress in many areas......but bad, no, I never said you were bad.

Phil, I have seen a recent pic of you. You have quite the belly. Why not use some of your amazing products to trim the waistline?

have you used ergo pep folli?
 
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Good one! Lets see, shall I try the old " your daddy is stupid" one on you? Classic stuff.......poser

no i am being dead serious. all anyone has to do is google "Phil Hernon". 3rd result is your facebook page. pics of you on the couch. so how has the folli worked for you?
 

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