- Mar 26, 2017
I'm prescribed 100mg CC weekly to replace my hCG so I'm increasing my dosing. Turns out I have a decent supply of CC stashed so increasing to 50mg x3 weekly.
One week in and my testicles are much more sensitive to touch. I guess they're kinda tender and no real changes in size yet but they never atrophied like most guys do. I have one bottle of hCG left and will add it at 200iu daily for the next 25 days.
The guy in the study used 25mg CC (recommended starting dose in study) , so I'm questioning if using half that dose will be effective. My HPTA has been shutdown/broken for close to 15 years due to trauma so this may not work for me but based off that study and Emeric's experience combining CC with low dose daily Testosterone may be the best protocol for most.
The way I wrote that is misleading since it's missing a comma. I meant his low dose, daily injections instead of a single 200mg dose. I don't think he's used CC and he says he doesn't use hCG.
There very likely is something to this. My libido is still extremely high although I dropped my dosage way down.
Well, Clomid didn't work for me. It also made me an emotional bitch and unstable asshole. I was on it for 5 weeks when blood work was taken. That said I've been on TRT forever and have mTBI issues also.
Serum Test, 471ng/dL
Free Test, 21.5pg/mL (nice)
HA1c, 5.2 (normal for me)
So 10mg daily with 25mg Clomid daily didn't do much for me. Under about 600ng/dL serum testosterone I feel crappy. IGF is low but lipids look way better. HDL (45) is way higher than I can ever remember. Thyroid is screaming along but fasted glucose is really high at 125. No other hints of insulin resistance but I fast a lot and it drives my glucose up. My glucose is high unless my serum testosterone is around 600ng/dL. Glucose might be due to extreme binge drinking, like a case daily, literally. I've accepted I'm a full blown alcoholic. I do take 400mg Humanofort but really get pain relief mostly. SHBG dropped about 10 points, so on the lower end again. Overall all my numbers are better except serum Test. Apparently no matter how I dose my TRT I get a linear serum level based on dosing. I also need more than most people but I metabolize all drugs extremely fast. 10mg daily made life OKish.
I wonder if I'd done 5mg per day and had a different result. Emeric uses 5mg daily for TRT and has serum levels in the 600s. Biggest lesson is alcohol wrecks my liver enzymes (higher, not terrible).
The Clomid effect on ejaculate was cool but not worth it. I'm getting some Proviron since it's legal here too. My strength fell off quick on 10mg daily. I need at least 15mg from multiple blood work results.
Hey brother. First of all mad props to you for doing this experiment and following through with bloodwork AND for posting that for all of us to see and to learn the truth by your experiences. Wow..sounds like judging from that bloodwork the clomid isn't really helping but it seemed to have been helping so tremendously especially with the fact that you mentioned earlier (if I'm not mistaken) that its helping you to put more size and fullness back in the sack. Maybe that was just because you lowered your test that your body naturally did that.
I wonder if the clomid actually increased your sperm as it seemed to increase semen load (which maybe somewhat contributes to more sperm?). I know a lot of guys on other TRT forums swear that its giving them bigger loads and balls just by running clomid with the test..even tho LH and FSH is ZERO.
Better just stick with full blown HCG and HMG and do what is proven to work and run your full strong cruises doses so you feel as good and healthy as possible.
I'll tell you this though..in all seriousness man..I feel you on the clomid causing horrible mood swings, anger, anxiety and just all over the f*cking place lol. I actually want to try again last night and did like 15mg..today..im all over the place. Damn that crap..throwing it in the tosser lol.
By the way..if I could give my honest opinion to you in regards to lowering the test and staying on the clomid..I don't think its worth it to run a dose that low because of the fact that you metabolize it so fast anyways. What worked for the other guy probably won't worth because of your high metabolism issues. If HCG and HMG works for guys on full blown cycles..it'll make you fertile again with your TRT normal type dose.
It's not worth to starve your body and muscles of testosterone..especially with that incredibly hard work you put into building your physique and strength..only to watch it shrink away because of the lower test doses and the clomid..
So I'm going to keep using the Clomid at 25 x3 weekly (don't have Proviron yet) and increase my TRT to 70mg x3 weekly too. Hopefully, the lower Clomid dose will still provide the benefits I had before and I'm prescribed 200mg TRT weekly so it's piling up honestly. I can get by with 20mg daily but 30mg sounds like more fun.
I do this for 30ish days and report back. I can't get blood work so it will all be anecdotal experience but the emission increase is still hanging on.