amino acid profiles in foods? Does it play a big factor?

[TooPowerful4u]

I was thinking about this today and i was wondering how much it really matters. I like to regularly go to Mcdonalds for burgers lol, and i know their quality of meat is garbage. Would that mean it has an insuficient amino acid profile and make the protein values in it garbage? Any insight into this?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

A little vague

I was thinking about this today and i was wondering how much it really matters. I like to regularly go to Mcdonalds for burgers lol, and i know their quality of meat is garbage. Would that mean it has an insuficient amino acid profile and make the protein values in it garbage? Any insight into this?

What do you mean exactly? Are you asking if the amino acid profile matters? Yes. Not sure what garbage means. NOt sure if different parts of the cow have different amino acid ratios. It is all about ratios. Say we use the value 100. A perfect amino acid balance would be somewhat like this.

2%Alanine
10%Arginine
2%Aspartic acid
1% Cysteine
2%Citrulline
10%Glutamic acid
10%Glutamine
3%Glycine
2%Histidine
9%Isoleucine
10%Leucine
10%Lysine
5%Methionine
3%Phenylalanine
2%Proline
5%Serine
4%THreonine
3%Tryptophane
2%Taurine
5%Valine

This would be optimal. Taking anymore of one of these Aminos will make this profile less desireable.

 

[Johan]

What do you mean exactly? Are you asking if the amino acid profile matters? Yes. Not sure what garbage means. NOt sure if different parts of the cow have different amino acid ratios. It is all about ratios. Say we use the value 100. A perfect amino acid balance would be somewhat like this.

2%Alanine
10%Arginine
2%Aspartic acid
1% Cysteine
2%Citrulline
10%Glutamic acid
10%Glutamine
3%Glycine
2%Histidine
9%Isoleucine
10%Leucine
10%Lysine
5%Methionine
3%Phenylalanine
2%Proline
5%Serine
4%THreonine
3%Tryptophane
2%Taurine
5%Valine

This would be optimal. Taking anymore of one of these Aminos will make this profile less desireable.

I guess then that human meat has that exact profile so maby we should become cannibals lol

 

[Superior1]

www.nutritiondata.com

 

[DIEZEL666]

What do you mean exactly? Are you asking if the amino acid profile matters? Yes. Not sure what garbage means. NOt sure if different parts of the cow have different amino acid ratios. It is all about ratios. Say we use the value 100. A perfect amino acid balance would be somewhat like this.

2%Alanine
10%Arginine
2%Aspartic acid
1% Cysteine
2%Citrulline
10%Glutamic acid
10%Glutamine
3%Glycine
2%Histidine
9%Isoleucine
10%Leucine
10%Lysine
5%Methionine
3%Phenylalanine
2%Proline
5%Serine
4%THreonine
3%Tryptophane
2%Taurine
5%Valine

This would be optimal. Taking anymore of one of these Aminos will make this profile less desireable.

Phil, where would you find this perfect balance of aminos? I notice that you rate glutamine and argine highly. Is this due to L. Rea's suggestions, or did you come to this conclusion on your own? Thanks.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Honestly

Phil, where would you find this perfect balance of aminos? I notice that you rate glutamine and argine highly. Is this due to L. Rea's suggestions, or did you come to this conclusion on your own? Thanks.

I could and would never come to those conclusions. There are too many factors in my routine to give an honest answer. THis is from L. Rea and others.

 

[DIEZEL666]

Phil, Then what source or sources of protein would give you this optimal balance? Thanks.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Hheheheeheeh

Phil, Then what source or sources of protein would give you this optimal balance? Thanks.

Now come on big D diddy!!! I could not tell that in public!!!! Actually, none will do it perfectly. This is why we have to manipulate a few factors. It is very time consuming, too lengthy to go into on paper.

 

[DIEZEL666]

Now come on big D diddy!!! I could not tell that in public!!!! Actually, none will do it perfectly. This is why we have to manipulate a few factors. It is very time consuming, too lengthy to go into on paper.

AAARRRGH! Why must you constantly toy with my emotions?

 

[BigMatt]

Eggs are a very good source.

 

[Mr_Magoo]

Phil...i doubt that protein profile is ideal for all situations as there are time where the body needs extra alanine to avoid going catabolic

 

[KillerStack]

If you're not in dieting mode the quality isn't as important if you have a high quantity and are in a surplus.

If you're in strict diet mode and in caloric deficit the quality becomes much more important.

If you are eating a lot of protein and from several different sources each day the quality becomes pretty much a moot point,IMO.

Even Dan Duchaine said this.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

I know he said that

If you're not in dieting mode the quality isn't as important if you have a high quantity and are in a surplus.

If you're in strict diet mode and in caloric deficit the quality becomes much more important.

If you are eating a lot of protein and from several different sources each day the quality becomes pretty much a moot point,IMO.

Even Dan Duchaine said this.

But today, that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me. I know what he is saying, but it is a vague, blanket statement. Anyone that has been over 280 fairly lean, knows that to get that way, quality is the only way to go. The only reason to use multiple sources is because one or two of the sources is not as efficient or lacking a few aminos that the other sources can provide. The profile I put up for optimim utilization, from L.Reas' book, is impossible to find in one food. I was not saying to use one food. You have to experiment with different amino ratios to see what works best for you.