anavar or pro hormones

duceswild · Mar 27, 2008

looking into either anavar or pro hormones i know anavar is a class 1 steriod and its effects are minimal but i dont know how it compares to pro hormones any info would be great

HairyBeast · Mar 28, 2008

what kind of PH? Give examples (SUS500, SD, HD, Epi, .........)

toasty151 · Mar 28, 2008

i am currently takin sostonol 250 fun ph that they took of the market but can still find everywhere.. i have noticed gains in my strength and size. Weight went up about 6 lbs in 3 weeks but im guessing water weight due to excessive bloated feeling im walking around with. Not the great info you will get from everyone else on this board but maybe helpful

debo22 · Mar 28, 2008

bro you should know what your taking before you take it....sustenol 250 is not the active ingredient in that designer.

anyway in my opinion epistane/havoc destroys var at a fraction of the cost. sus 500 will get you hard and lean as well but watch for a wicked estrogen rebound from the ATD in it.

Jarconis · Mar 28, 2008

bump for Havoc

duceswild · Mar 28, 2008

lookin into epistane and tren xtreme, any ideas on cycles?

P4D2A022 · Mar 28, 2008

debo22 said:
bro you should know what your taking before you take it....sustenol 250 is not the active ingredient in that designer.

anyway in my opinion epistane/havoc destroys var at a fraction of the cost. sus 500 will get you hard and lean as well but watch for a wicked estrogen rebound from the ATD in it.

better than var dude??? what did u dose anavar at??

duceswild · Mar 28, 2008

havoc the same as epistane why stack em?

cb11mass · Mar 28, 2008

I dont think he is saying stacked... I think he is saying havoc or epistane since they r the same thing, hence havoc/epistane.

duceswild · Mar 28, 2008

gotcha.. so which would be the better choice? and any info on anavar in a comparison

Ashop · Mar 29, 2008

duceswild said:
looking into either anavar or pro hormones i know anavar is a class 1 steriod and its effects are minimal but i dont know how it compares to pro hormones any info would be great

ANAVAR without doubt

Dr.S · Mar 29, 2008

I have not tried Havoc or Epistane, but I can tell you Sus500 and Phera-Plex/Phera-Mass are MUCH stronger than Var. 30 mg's of P-Plex felt as strong, or even a bit stronger than 50 mgs D-bol. 3 tabs/day SUS500 gave Tren like strength gains---it will most likely kill your sex drive and shrink your balls to raisin size.

I was blown away at how powerful a small dose of these Pro-hormones; ok, they are actually steroids not pro-hormones. I bought a bunch of SUS500 thinking I would stock up in case it was banned, but I may get rid of the remaining bottles---it's too damn strong

pesty4077 · Mar 29, 2008

duceswild said:
looking into either anavar or pro hormones i know anavar is a class 1 steriod and its effects are minimal but i dont know how it compares to pro hormones any info would be great

pro hormones or going to be more toxic on your liver, definetly if i had the choice, anavar. you never said what your goals are, anavar won't put on much size, good for strength with the right dosages, would stack it with test for size.

buselmo · Mar 29, 2008

here's what you hear about var:
strength, hardness, fat loss...

gave my dog 60 mg of var for 4 weeks a while back... here's what he experienced:
strength equal to 20 mg of dbol
hardness that couldn't even be compared to tren or masterone. as in, tren and mast were MUCH better
fatloss... none!

on the other hand, when my dog was preparing for his dog show a long time ago, he was on Sdrol, 20 mg for 2 weeks... then he stopped... because he was actually gaining weight and getting "harder" and leaner... he had to stop cuz his weight was going above the cut off point from small doggies, and he didn't even change his diet (wasn't bloat, cuz he was getting drier). but his liver enzymes were off the charts, and HDL was on a vacation.

some people swear by var... my dog hates it...

Sdrol is MUCH cheaper, and it's a LOT stronger... but it has more side effects. so it's up to you. if you've never tried var, i'd tell you to buy some Sdrol and some var, and try them at different times, then you be the judge.

only other prohormones my dog tried were 1 ad (crap), 4 ad (pretty good stuff), 19-nordiol (really good stuff), M1T (would kill to find it again... best thing he'd ever tried without a doubt!... but made his pee brown)

hope that helps

M21SL · Mar 29, 2008

buselmo said:
here's what you hear about var:
strength, hardness, fat loss...

gave my dog 60 mg of var for 4 weeks a while back... here's what he experienced:
strength equal to 20 mg of dbol
hardness that couldn't even be compared to tren or masterone. as in, tren and mast were MUCH better
fatloss... none!

on the other hand, when my dog was preparing for his dog show a long time ago, he was on Sdrol, 20 mg for 2 weeks... then he stopped... because he was actually gaining weight and getting "harder" and leaner... he had to stop cuz his weight was going above the cut off point from small doggies, and he didn't even change his diet (wasn't bloat, cuz he was getting drier). but his liver enzymes were off the charts, and HDL was on a vacation.

some people swear by var... my dog hates it...

Sdrol is MUCH cheaper, and it's a LOT stronger... but it has more side effects. so it's up to you. if you've never tried var, i'd tell you to buy some Sdrol and some var, and try them at different times, then you be the judge.

only other prohormones my dog tried were 1 ad (crap), 4 ad (pretty good stuff), 19-nordiol (really good stuff), M1T (would kill to find it again... best thing he'd ever tried without a doubt!... but made his pee brown)

hope that helps

lol, dude im retarted, at first i was reading your post and looking at that pic in your avatar, and was like is he serious? He literally fed his dog anavar?? But thats just me being stupid like usual. Good coverup lol.

Anyways, Ive neevr tried var, but have used sus500, and took 1AD and m1t when i was real young (which i regret now), but all three of those I thought worked well, especially m1t and sus500, even tho sus500 did kill my nuts. For you guys who used sus500, whatd u use for pct? i did a normal protocol, and still havin some recovery issues (sorry not trying to hijack the thread). I hear var is safer though.

buselmo · Mar 29, 2008

M21SL said:
lol, dude im retarted, at first i was reading your post and looking at that pic in your avatar, and was like is he serious? He literally fed his dog anavar?? But thats just me being stupid like usual. Good coverup lol.

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LOL!!!
you can clearly see the roid rage in his eyes! HAHAHAHAH

pesty4077 · Mar 29, 2008

buselmo said:
here's what you hear about var:
strength, hardness, fat loss...

gave my dog 60 mg of var for 4 weeks a while back... here's what he experienced:
strength equal to 20 mg of dbol
hardness that couldn't even be compared to tren or masterone. as in, tren and mast were MUCH better
fatloss... none!

on the other hand, when my dog was preparing for his dog show a long time ago, he was on Sdrol, 20 mg for 2 weeks... then he stopped... because he was actually gaining weight and getting "harder" and leaner... he had to stop cuz his weight was going above the cut off point from small doggies, and he didn't even change his diet (wasn't bloat, cuz he was getting drier). but his liver enzymes were off the charts, and HDL was on a vacation.

some people swear by var... my dog hates it...

Sdrol is MUCH cheaper, and it's a LOT stronger... but it has more side effects. so it's up to you. if you've never tried var, i'd tell you to buy some Sdrol and some var, and try them at different times, then you be the judge.

only other prohormones my dog tried were 1 ad (crap), 4 ad (pretty good stuff), 19-nordiol (really good stuff), M1T (would kill to find it again... best thing he'd ever tried without a doubt!... but made his pee brown)

hope that helps

M1T is very easy to obtain in US.

pesty4077 · Mar 29, 2008

M21SL said:
lol, dude im retarted, at first i was reading your post and looking at that pic in your avatar, and was like is he serious? He literally fed his dog anavar?? But thats just me being stupid like usual. Good coverup lol.

Anyways, Ive neevr tried var, but have used sus500, and took 1AD and m1t when i was real young (which i regret now), but all three of those I thought worked well, especially m1t and sus500, even tho sus500 did kill my nuts. For you guys who used sus500, whatd u use for pct? i did a normal protocol, and still havin some recovery issues (sorry not trying to hijack the thread). I hear var is safer though.

Personally, I rather skip pro-hormones, I get something real. Lots of choices, do something research,

duceswild · Mar 29, 2008

well im 5'10 190lbs ive trained for over 8yrs and i am not looking for huge gaines im looking to drop my body fat % and keep myself in the 190 range so after some research and the fact that id like to stay as far away from needles as possible i figured anavar or pro hormones ive heard alot of good things about epistane and tren xtreme and i can get my hands on liquid anavar. figured they were best choices for goals in mind. and thanks for the insight guys