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anti prolactin meds

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how much pramipexole u need per 1000mg of gear. I cant tolerate more than 0.2 mg at a time , it makes me feel like crap, so does bromocriptine.....but i seems EQ is causing "deca dick" issues...high prolactin is one nasty side effect
 

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how much pramipexole u need per 1000mg of gear. I cant tolerate more than 0.2 mg at a time , it makes me feel like crap, so does bromocriptine.....but i seems EQ is causing "deca dick" issues...high prolactin is one nasty side effect
EQ converts to estrogen. What else are you running and what doses? Dick issues could be anything and is most likely an estrogen issue. Estrogen could be too high or too low. Bloodwork is the only way to truly know what you need.

You can't give a fixed dose per 1000mg as everyone is different. The lowest effective dose is the best so start off low. As you know these drugs can make you feel like complete crap if dosed too high. Prami is great but not user friendly so if you ever have prolactin issues try cabergoline. I like to use a very low daily dose for 1 week then move up to 0.5mg twice weekly and that is more than enough to destroy prolactin. Moreover it's much more user friendly compared to other dopamine agonists (prami, bromo etc). Even 0.25mg caber twice weekly would be enough.

Only use dopamine agonists to lower prolactin and don't stay on them. Again though I doubt you have high prolactin and it will be something else (e2).
 

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EQ converts to estrogen. What else are you running and what doses? Dick issues could be anything and is most likely an estrogen issue. Estrogen could be too high or too low. Bloodwork is the only way to truly know what you need.

You can't give a fixed dose per 1000mg as everyone is different. The lowest effective dose is the best so start off low. As you know these drugs can make you feel like complete crap if dosed too high. Prami is great but not user friendly so if you ever have prolactin issues try Caroline. I like to use a very low daily dose for 1 week then move up to 0.5mg twice weekly and that is more than enough to destroy prolactin. Moreover it's much more user friendly compared to other dopamine agonists (prami, bromo etc). Even 0.25mg caber twice weekly would be enough.

Only use dopamine agonists to lower prolactin and don't stay on them. Again though I doubt you have high prolactin and it will be something else (e2).
3g of test 1.5g EQ, 200Mast EOD, winny 100mg ED, 20-40mg Methyl -D ED ( these are my normal doses every so often, not all the time), estrogen is under control with anstro. But i ve had 0 estrogen on blood work and still high prolactin just from test...and every time I add EQ or tren i got the "deca dick" issue...I can get up with viagra, cialis, even without them, I just dont have the usual desire I used to without them....I dont have any sides from dostinex but it s kinda pricey for pharmacy grade..I know at such high dose of gear i ll have issues, but i m sure if you use the right amount of something to lower prolactin, i ll be fine, I just cant tolerate a few of those dopamine agonists. Even Mealnotan II made me sleep with a boner all night long but still not much desire....like..ehh -take it or leave it...
 
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Sorry but why this high dosage ? 3G of test oh my god ...
Some pic of your body ?? ;-)

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EQ converts to estrogen. What else are you running and what doses? Dick issues could be anything and is most likely an estrogen issue. Estrogen could be too high or too low. Bloodwork is the only way to truly know what you need.

You can't give a fixed dose per 1000mg as everyone is different. The lowest effective dose is the best so start off low. As you know these drugs can make you feel like complete crap if dosed too high. Prami is great but not user friendly so if you ever have prolactin issues try cabergoline. I like to use a very low daily dose for 1 week then move up to 0.5mg twice weekly and that is more than enough to destroy prolactin. Moreover it's much more user friendly compared to other dopamine agonists (prami, bromo etc). Even 0.25mg caber twice weekly would be enough.

Only use dopamine agonists to lower prolactin and don't stay on them. Again though I doubt you have high prolactin and it will be something else (e2).
For my next cycle of Nandrolone, i planned some prami in first choice for the prolactin side, in second carbegoline ( because when i search some informations the carbegoline look like hell ... )







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For my next cycle of Nandrolone, i planned some prami in first choice for the prolactin side, in second carbegoline ( because when i search some informations the carbegoline look like hell ... )







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lot of ppl like prami...i personally more than 200mcg feel like shit, and same with pharm grade bromo....lethargic, cranky , moody, just not myself.....
 

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First of all bro that's a lot of gear lol. I hope you're ok!

Secondly, Cabergoline from a sponsor on here is amazing. I bite the bullet and buy it. Prami makes me feel like crap. Caber might be twice the price but its worth it to prevent the gyno, nipple soreness, and ED.
 

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hard to know whats causing your decreased drive when our on almost 7g of hormones.. it could be anything from blood pressure to estrogen to blood viscosity to Nitric oxide issues to having high RBC/low MCV theres wayyy too many variables in your dose range to know without bloodwork.

As far as dopamine agonists go, avoid them at all costs if possible. these are NOT light medications and people here overuse them and think little of adding them in when they arent needed. Get blood work first to see if you even need them. these meds can have serious mental health effects that dont go away after stopping the med.
 

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hard to know whats causing your decreased drive when our on almost 7g of hormones.. it could be anything from blood pressure to estrogen to blood viscosity to Nitric oxide issues to having high RBC/low MCV theres wayyy too many variables in your dose range to know without bloodwork.

As far as dopamine agonists go, avoid them at all costs if possible. these are NOT light medications and people here overuse them and think little of adding them in when they arent needed. Get blood work first to see if you even need them. these meds can have serious mental health effects that dont go away after stopping the med.
lol
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i almost feel like this post is a joke...

7g gear
est 0
high prolactin and est 0???
dear lord.

in all seriousnes to the op...
we have all these dumb posts about health n what not, but....
living like this is no joke playing with fire.

adding more drugs into the mix while it clearly is your normal thing, again probably counter productive in the long run. im like 99.325% sure you could look better on like a g or so, but... whatever.

ive had 3+ plus day benders, who am i to talk right.. lol :eek::rolleyes:

az knows his chem shit and guys for real prolactin drugs do some fucked up shit in your brain!!! do not take them lightly like est meds. no joke for real

prami you need to respect n start tiny!
and up it in the same tiny! amt.
again, done to death.

as is USE FUCKING PHARMA CABER! lol
least side effect of all and well worth the money!:rolleyes::banghead: lol

seriously guys...
i know its stupid done to death blah balh blah but :confused::confused::confused:
comon...
dont live like this!:lightbulb:
 

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hard to know whats causing your decreased drive when our on almost 7g of hormones.. it could be anything from blood pressure to estrogen to blood viscosity to Nitric oxide issues to having high RBC/low MCV theres wayyy too many variables in your dose range to know without bloodwork.

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nooo, as far as this goes on such doses these thing are checked regularly -BP, blood work, viscosity and all that - i mean monthly. BP meds are taken, I drained half a pint twice this month to keep platelets in check, and go by blood results to watch not to go too low on iron. As far as viscosity - it s not too hard to judge when draining, and following krit, albumin on the tests...last night took 8mins to drain half a pint through an 18g needle. It was a steady stream at first. Another possibility for low drive is the ACE inhibitors and sleep meds.
 
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The above posts explain things well. On that amount of hormones anything is possible. The higher your test dose doesn't mean the higher your libido and usually quite the opposite. You need to get your estrogen and prolactin tested (plus all health markers).

In regards to dopamine agonists it's actually the other way round. I have extensive experience with pramipexole and guys used to pm me constantly about it. Some do love it but most can't stand it as they take too much. I would start at 0.05mg and move up slowly to 0.2mg at a max and even then it could cause issues. Bromo is ok and again dose is the main factor. Caber can be the same but generally it's much more user friendly. I could take a 0.5mg tab tonight and be fine. If I took 0.2mg prami tonight I would probably be up all night and well not good.

Asteelz summed up things well. Don't take things you don't need. Although if you do ever have high prolactin spend the extra money and go with dostinex.
 
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lol
:yeahthat:
i almost feel like this post is a joke...

7g gear
est 0
high prolactin and est 0???
dear lord.

in all seriousnes to the op...
we have all these dumb posts about health n what not, but....
living like this is no joke playing with fire.

adding more drugs into the mix while it clearly is your normal thing, again probably counter productive in the long run. im like 99.325% sure you could look better on like a g or so, but... whatever.

ive had 3+ plus day benders, who am i to talk right.. lol :eek::rolleyes:

az knows his chem shit and guys for real prolactin drugs do some fucked up shit in your brain!!! do not take them lightly like est meds. no joke for real

prami you need to respect n start tiny!
and up it in the same tiny! amt.
again, done to death.

as is USE FUCKING PHARMA CABER! lol
least side effect of all and well worth the money!:rolleyes::banghead: lol

seriously guys...
i know its stupid done to death blah balh blah but :confused::confused::confused:
comon...
dont live like this!:lightbulb:
thanks bro! it blows my mind when i see all the dopamine drugs people use without first confirming if an issue is present, and even if so.. ive learned my lesson with these back in february-march..
 

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More than likely EQ. In my experience, there is a chosen few that EQ destroys libido. I don't know WHY...it just does. I can run any drug, any dose and have fine libido.

I add in EQ....and it's limp as a noodle and I need viagra to get the job done. I know 10-12 guys the exact same thing happens.
 

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I heard upping gear to 14 grams will make you a porn star, so you better double up.

also don't forget to do the 200mg of orals daily that you were doing before.

But in all seriousness with that much gear it's hard to guess what's messing up your sex drive. When I did higher dose cycles I almost felt like its just too much androgen present, it's like stimulants you can only take so much before you crash. Adding some androgen is good for sex drive but after a certain point it just crashes.
 

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More than likely EQ. In my experience, there is a chosen few that EQ destroys libido. I don't know WHY...it just does. I can run any drug, any dose and have fine libido.

I add in EQ....and it's limp as a noodle and I need viagra to get the job done. I know 10-12 guys the exact same thing happens.
I kinda have the same feeling about the EQ, although no research ever suggested such side effects
 

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how much pramipexole u need per 1000mg of gear. I cant tolerate more than 0.2 mg at a time , it makes me feel like crap,
Ive heard this numerous times.
What exactly does it make u feel like?
Also...did it improve your sleep?
I have some on hand just in case
 

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Prami can be tricky. When it is good it is incredible. I have had some of the best sleep ever with the most vivid dreams on prami. It has also given me my worst nights ever.

By reason of the initial surge in dopamine it can actually keep you awake. I noticed when I dosed it approx 3 hours pre bed I was fine. If you can time it just before you sleep then great too. The peak in HGH post administration has been shown to be at approx 2 hours so that can add to the sleep factor. When I use prami I get severe cts and feel like I have dosed 10iu pre bed. I am not stating that to be the case but it definitely can have a pronounced effect on hgh levels.

Dose is the main factor and again start silly low like 0.05mg max. Move up 0.01mg (or as close to as possible) each day. So you are taking a few weeks to get to 0.2mg. I know some who up fast and are ok but they are rare. Now the guys who can use 5mg+ just baffle me but I guess everyone is different.
 

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I take .5mg . I've never had a problem with it. I use sun pharma.
 

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