Bloat can be controlled through careful planning . Test is king of any compound to say tren is a replacement with respect is absurd . In my few decades of bodybuilding and using compounds if I were to be confined to only two compounds test and hgh with nothing else would be it. As 50 year old looking best I ever have , overcoming injuries , maintaining health . The synergy is proven in both science and exoerience its this forums inexperienced people that create hysteria and issues . All compounds in some level are derived from testosterone or some form of it . To cycle without is long term messing with your natural production . Bridging , never ending cycles , over reliance on drugs perpetuate the ignorance and misunderstanding of the value of test . Your dietary practices are the foundations of how your cycle operates. Then your training . The term cycle implies that you take breaks to help your system recover . Too many foolish people are impatient and allow their enthusiasm to overshadow intelligent approaches. I mean to sit here and read @ there are only studies " ??? Really ??? Many many studies . There are also reasons why tren alone long term would not be beneficial .
Using hgh for over 12 - 15 years personally and training others and interacting with others almost 20 years . There is a world of differences
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