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many-moons
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Arm Site Injecting and nerves!
I have read the sticky on SIte Oils and it's great. But how many of you have experienced hitting a nerve? My arms are not big (15")and I plan to use 25 5/8 needles.
I have looked at anatomy charts but am still confused. Where exactly are the nerves located at the bi's and tri's. I was just wondering how risky it is to hit a nerve.
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03-24-2002 08:05 PM
xcelbeyond
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Re: Arm Site Injecting and nerves!
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Originally posted by many-moons
But how many of you have experienced hitting a nerve? . . .
Where exactly are the nerves located at the bi's and tri's.
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Welcome to the board bro!
I'm not an experienced SEO user by any means - but an experience Injector I have never worried about hitting a nerve, but always make sure I don't inject into a vein.
I think nerves are similar to veins anyway - meaning everyone has them placed differently within the body. You can look at a chart depicting veins and my body is not the same. That big vein that runs down the middle of your biceps - I don't have one, even at 4-5% BF!! (just have a bunch of small ones - if the big one's there, it's buried DEEP).
In biceps, I'm more concerned about making sure I'm hitting each head properly. The remote possibility of hitting a nerve is there with ANY injection.
Good Luck
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03-24-2002 08:59 PM
natass
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I agree
I am a little experienced is site injections with AS and with Pump and Pose (when it first came out) and now, just started Syntherol. BTW, Syntherol ROCKS!!!!. Not much pain. Just feels like a normal sore muscle after training hard. Anyway, when site injecting just inject slowly. when I mean slowly I mean it could take 20-30 seconds to get the dart in to where I need to inject. If you are going in slowly and you touch a nerve, of course you'll feel the twitch. If I am kinda deep in there when I do this, I'll just back out a tad and inject there. If I am not too deep, no need to inject, just withdraw, move over a tad and inject again. chances are you wont hit the nerve again.
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03-24-2002 11:05 PM
moose
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Hey bro, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean?? Do you actually jab quickly initially to break the surface, or what?? Usually when I jab, I just stick it fairly quick and then inject?? What is the best way to do it with syntherol?
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03-25-2002 07:42 AM
xcelbeyond
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quote:
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Originally posted by moose
Hey bro, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean?? Do you actually jab quickly initially to break the surface, or what?? Usually when I jab, I just stick it fairly quick and then inject?? What is the best way to do it with syntherol?
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This is what I do also.
Just today, I was injecting a bicep and about 1/2 way in it felt like I hit a nerve (you'll know!!). I pulled out and moved over. This has happended to me before on biceps. I just get a "funny" feeling in my forearm when I bend my arm at the elbow (like funny bone tingle). It goes away in a couple of hours. If I poke too slow, it will usually hurt like hell going through the first couple of layers, about 1/8" to 1/4". When I poke fast, (at least the "initial" poke) there's no pain.
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many-moons
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When you hit a nerve in the bi's and tri's is it really scary or is it no big deal? I never hit one before.
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Big A
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If you full on hit a nerve, you will be peeling yourself off the ceiling!
If you are in the vicinity of one, you will know too! You'll get this tingly sensetion, kinda like an electric shock.
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natass
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Slow all the way
quote:
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Originally posted by moose
Hey bro, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean?? Do you actually jab quickly initially to break the surface, or what?? Usually when I jab, I just stick it fairly quick and then inject?? What is the best way to do it with syntherol?
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I even go slowly on the initial jab breaking through the skin. In the ass or shoulder I may do it alot faster.
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03-25-2002 08:25 PM
mike man
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I've hit a nerve
In the outer left calf. This happened about a year ago. I still have a tingling sensation whenever anything bumps against that particular area. Even if I push on it lightly with my fingers it sends shooting sensations up and down the full length of my lower leg. Doesn't interfere with my training any so at this point, with nothing able to do for it, I just keep training. Hasn't affected the muscle growth any.
Also, a few days after I hit it, my whole lower leg swelled up quite a bit. I thought I had started to get an infection (was hot to touch and very red) so I went to the Dr's. He said I just hit a nerve and that was the reaction from it. It lasted about 2-3 weeks then the swelling slowly went down.
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03-26-2002 02:38 AM
BadGirl
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hi
In nursing school, we went over the proper injections. The only place allowed on the arms is 1cc in the delt, but we weren't warned of any specific nerve dangers in the arm, only in the leg.
For legs it's dangerous if you hit the sciatic nerve. It's hard to find the right placment in the glute. we had to test out on all the correct placements and just about everyone has trouble finding the right place on the butt. There is only a small triangle that has no possibility of hitting the nerve. On the quads it's easy, lateral quad, pretty much anywhere on the side. go too far in the middle though and hitting the sciatic nerve there can cause permanent damage.
nurses get sued for this so hiting the nerve does happen.
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Arm Site Injecting and nerves!
I have read the sticky on SIte Oils and it's great. But how many of you have experienced hitting a nerve? My arms are not big (15")and I plan to use 25 5/8 needles.
I have looked at anatomy charts but am still confused. Where exactly are the nerves located at the bi's and tri's. I was just wondering how risky it is to hit a nerve.
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03-24-2002 08:05 PM
xcelbeyond
Better than avg BB'er
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: West Coast
Posts: 336
Re: Arm Site Injecting and nerves!
quote:
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Originally posted by many-moons
But how many of you have experienced hitting a nerve? . . .
Where exactly are the nerves located at the bi's and tri's.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the board bro!
I'm not an experienced SEO user by any means - but an experience Injector I have never worried about hitting a nerve, but always make sure I don't inject into a vein.
I think nerves are similar to veins anyway - meaning everyone has them placed differently within the body. You can look at a chart depicting veins and my body is not the same. That big vein that runs down the middle of your biceps - I don't have one, even at 4-5% BF!! (just have a bunch of small ones - if the big one's there, it's buried DEEP).
In biceps, I'm more concerned about making sure I'm hitting each head properly. The remote possibility of hitting a nerve is there with ANY injection.
Good Luck
xcelbeyond
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natass
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I agree
I am a little experienced is site injections with AS and with Pump and Pose (when it first came out) and now, just started Syntherol. BTW, Syntherol ROCKS!!!!. Not much pain. Just feels like a normal sore muscle after training hard. Anyway, when site injecting just inject slowly. when I mean slowly I mean it could take 20-30 seconds to get the dart in to where I need to inject. If you are going in slowly and you touch a nerve, of course you'll feel the twitch. If I am kinda deep in there when I do this, I'll just back out a tad and inject there. If I am not too deep, no need to inject, just withdraw, move over a tad and inject again. chances are you wont hit the nerve again.
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03-24-2002 11:05 PM
moose
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Hey bro, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean?? Do you actually jab quickly initially to break the surface, or what?? Usually when I jab, I just stick it fairly quick and then inject?? What is the best way to do it with syntherol?
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03-25-2002 07:42 AM
xcelbeyond
Better than avg BB'er
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: West Coast
Posts: 336
quote:
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Originally posted by moose
Hey bro, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean?? Do you actually jab quickly initially to break the surface, or what?? Usually when I jab, I just stick it fairly quick and then inject?? What is the best way to do it with syntherol?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is what I do also.
Just today, I was injecting a bicep and about 1/2 way in it felt like I hit a nerve (you'll know!!). I pulled out and moved over. This has happended to me before on biceps. I just get a "funny" feeling in my forearm when I bend my arm at the elbow (like funny bone tingle). It goes away in a couple of hours. If I poke too slow, it will usually hurt like hell going through the first couple of layers, about 1/8" to 1/4". When I poke fast, (at least the "initial" poke) there's no pain.
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many-moons
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When you hit a nerve in the bi's and tri's is it really scary or is it no big deal? I never hit one before.
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Big A
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If you full on hit a nerve, you will be peeling yourself off the ceiling!
If you are in the vicinity of one, you will know too! You'll get this tingly sensetion, kinda like an electric shock.
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03-25-2002 08:03 PM
natass
Member
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Just about anywhere I want
Posts: 35
Slow all the way
quote:
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Originally posted by moose
Hey bro, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean?? Do you actually jab quickly initially to break the surface, or what?? Usually when I jab, I just stick it fairly quick and then inject?? What is the best way to do it with syntherol?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I even go slowly on the initial jab breaking through the skin. In the ass or shoulder I may do it alot faster.
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03-25-2002 08:25 PM
mike man
Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location:
Posts: 51
I've hit a nerve
In the outer left calf. This happened about a year ago. I still have a tingling sensation whenever anything bumps against that particular area. Even if I push on it lightly with my fingers it sends shooting sensations up and down the full length of my lower leg. Doesn't interfere with my training any so at this point, with nothing able to do for it, I just keep training. Hasn't affected the muscle growth any.
Also, a few days after I hit it, my whole lower leg swelled up quite a bit. I thought I had started to get an infection (was hot to touch and very red) so I went to the Dr's. He said I just hit a nerve and that was the reaction from it. It lasted about 2-3 weeks then the swelling slowly went down.
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03-26-2002 02:38 AM
BadGirl
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: mpls
Posts: 47
hi
In nursing school, we went over the proper injections. The only place allowed on the arms is 1cc in the delt, but we weren't warned of any specific nerve dangers in the arm, only in the leg.
For legs it's dangerous if you hit the sciatic nerve. It's hard to find the right placment in the glute. we had to test out on all the correct placements and just about everyone has trouble finding the right place on the butt. There is only a small triangle that has no possibility of hitting the nerve. On the quads it's easy, lateral quad, pretty much anywhere on the side. go too far in the middle though and hitting the sciatic nerve there can cause permanent damage.
nurses get sued for this so hiting the nerve does happen.
