Buddy of mine wants to join the BP in a month or so, well get started on it I guess. Anyway he ran a test/deca cycle a few months back and wanted to know if the BP does urine or blood tests which im sure they do but if so do they test for gear?
Sorry to bump this up but I still can't believe how naive some people are in regards to AAS testing.
First off, NO, AAS isn't just detected in blood, they can be and are detected through the urine. I don't know why people think this but the metabolites are detectable in the urine, especially deca with it being detectable for up to 12 to 18 months.
Second of all, most Law Enforcement agencies are not going to forgive your usage of Schedule III controlled substance if you wait a year. The vast majority of agencies would 'consider' an applicant after a five year period of being clean, but we're talking a federal agency, i.e, the Border Patrol. This is from their website:
"Drug Testing: All applicants for this position will be required to submit to urinalysis to screen for illegal drug use prior to appointment. This position is designated for testing for illegal drug use; incumbents are subject to random testing"
Keep in mind this is a Federal Agency and the chances that they will test for AAS are much higher than what an average municipality or county agency would do.
As far as being honest, sure, be honest and they will either DQ your friend permanently or temporarily suspend him from the process for a period of years. Most agencies have a list of drugs and the amount of time each one disqualifies the applicant for, and AAS may or may not be a permanent disqualifier but to admit it straight out, I can guarantee that a Federal Agency is not going to say, oh well, thanks for bein' honest, sure, welcome aboard. You have to remember, these folks deal with contraband being smuggled into the country and that includes AAS and a host of other 'illegal' substances and to readily admit you just recently did a cycle would be a possible integrity issue.
Look man, I'm gonna be honest with you, if he just got out of rehab (assuming it may have been court ordered?) especially for pills, he will NOT pass the background investigation as a federal background is about as extensive and as invading as one could possibly be. They dig up EVERYTHING and he's just not going to cut it. Trying to turn ones life around is fine, but you can't just jump into LE because you're trying to do better for yourself.
As far as the urine test goes, no, it's not for orals, everything you take from vitamins to injectable drugs can be picked up in the urine with GC/MS testing.
Wow....lets all gather ourselves here. I know people who have been through the border patrol as well as the ICE background investigation. As long as the rehab was not court ordered your friend should be fine. How extensive do you think the investigation is? They run your name through whatever databases they have for arrests, warrants and convictions. They also run a credit search and give you a drug test. As far as the drug test goes, as long as its urine, your fine. Just do some research about flushing out your system with water, and then taking the proper supplements to bring your urine back to acceptable levels. Most of what they have and can use against you is what you willingly divulge to them in good faith. People willingly divulge incriminating evidence because they fear lie detectors, and believe that honesty is the best policy, its not. Tell your buddy to not divulge any drug use other then the occasional beer with his buddies, and trying marijuana once or twice in high school. Dont give them ammo or more importantly a reason to disqualify you.
Believe it or not, I checked myself into a rehab about ten years ago. I ran my credit six months, just to look at it. Guess what? The rehab reported my adress at that time on my credit report. If I ever went for a job in L.E. they would probably search that adress up which shows on my credit report as a prior resident (even though it was 10 years ago and for two months), and find out it was a a rehabilitation center.
"So Mr. Scott21 you said you never tried illegal drugs huh?.... So please explain to us why we conducted our Experian/Transunion credit report it appears on this date your place of residents comes back to a drug rehab center? BTW, we sent a background investigator there and they say on your file you admitted to checking yourself there because you were doing such and such drug...And upon further investigation paper work shows you failed a random urine analysis there six weeks into your stay. Can you please explain this to us??"
Just saying, somethings the smallest things you have may leave a trail, becareful.
You know what Scott, you make a somewhat fair point, but how about if the rehab facility was paid in cash? How about the rehab facility takes confidentiality seriously and bills you under an innocuous name? "BTW, we sent a background investigator there and they say on your file you admitted to checking yourself there because you were doing such and such drug...And upon further investigation paper work shows you failed a random urine analysis there six weeks into your stay. " Again, even if this scenario would come up, I'm pretty sure there would have to be some level of confidentiality between the center and client. I'm just saying, a few months out of rehab for a pill addiction and recent steroid use is probably grounds for your ass to get rejected. You don't tell them shit like that. Come on guys.....a background investigation? What do you think?, there going to send a team of fbi investigators into the field to interview your high school sweetheart and principal? Principal: "Oh that lexxdiamons? check his high school permanent record.....we caught him smoking dope in the bathroom in tenth grade!"
High School Sweetheart: Who lexxdiamons?, yes mister fbi investigator...I remember senior year....he gained twenty pounds of muscle and couldn't get a hard on.....he admitted he was shooting deca!!!!!! steroids !!!!
Last but not least....THE LIE DETECTOR IS BULLSHITT!!!!! heres some links:
Cheat a Polygraph Test (Lie Detector - wikiHow)
polygraph - lie detector - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com
And one of my favorites:
Learn How to Pass (or Beat) a Polygraph Test | AntiPolygraph.org
As long as your friend has half a brain and does his research and does what he is supposed to and dosent get fucked with a blood or hair drug test that is searching for anabolic steroids (highly unlikely) he should be fine. If not, at least he should not go in there readily handing over the information for his own dismissal.