"bridging"

[TLTL]

I have a friend,yes really a friend not me, i wouldnt do this. neways he is finishing up his cyle of sus n deca.Now he wants to start anavar and his pct at the same time and run the anavar for 6 weeks.I sorta understand pct to sorta bring his balls back,but wouldnt he need to keep running pct even after the anavar.also this "bridge" he has come up with is just a bridge to pct, no new cycle will be started after anavar and pct.are there any benifits to this.I feel its a bit screwy. But id like to hear what u guys have to say so possibly i could give him some better advice.

 

[wizim]

i do similar with winny. i start 3-4 weeks before pct and take it right up to the start of pct which for me is 3 weeks after last test injection.

 

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[Yohimbe33]

I've tried it with dbol as well at the beginning of pct.

Idea was if you run dbol at 10mg in the morning it piggy backs your natural test production, which is at its peak first thing in the morning, without causing much negative feedback.
That way you're getting the anti catabolic effects without disrupting natural test production much during early stages of pct, when muscle loss is at it's most likely.

It seemed to work ok and I retained well that cycle. I ran the dbol for 3 weeks and kept the pct going for another 2 weeks after that. Might give this a go again next time

 

[Gunsmith]

what are you guys doin for "PCT" also what are you doing to help yourself DURING your cycle , I have found that keeping my balls "involved" during the whole cycle greatly helps my reccovery afterward

 

[Yohimbe33]

what are you guys doin for "PCT" also what are you doing to help yourself DURING your cycle , I have found that keeping my balls "involved" during the whole cycle greatly helps my reccovery afterward

On that cycle I pulsed HCG 2 weeks on 2 weeks off at 1,000iu per week.

THe dbol bridge seemed to help a bit-but it wasn't dramatic for me and there wasn't a huge difference between when I didn't use and when I did. Maybe it helped a bit, but it wasn't like I did it and now I won't do it any other way.

 

[mexbeast]

if it was me i would do it this way, start 2 weeks after last sus&deca shot
week 1 hcg 1 5000mgs amp spread through out the week, start letrozole 2.5mgs nolva 20mgs
week 2 continue letro&nolva
week 3 letro 1.5 mgs nolva 10mgs anavar 10mgs with breakfast, weeks4,5,and6 same as 3
remember hcg stimulates both estrogen and test production that's why you need letro, and nolva.

 

[southern2316]

Tell him to look into SARMs

 

[trenjin]

just tell him to stay on

 

[2ez]

Just a little FYI ...i got from another board:



The Dianabol Bridge Explained (post #1)

I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.

Hope that clears the air.

 

[nickman1978]

i 've read that b4 as well. I wonder if it would really work?

 

[big-O]

i will prob be giving this a try at the end of my cycle as i will have some dbol leftover and i think itll help me keep my gains. good info tho

 

[LBJK88981]

Unless one's age or hereditary circumstances provide for being on HRT, then time off should be time off. Proper diet and training will maintain one's physique during this period of time and its best to give the body a rest. Doing so will increase the response when AAS are re-introduced.

3g of D-Aspartic acid during this time OFF is a tremendous help at getting natural testosterone production up.

-Alex