caber and hgh. (igf)

[nfernoo]

Anyone have blood tests of their igf levels while on caber and hgh?

It's said it won't decrease exogenous but I'm not so sure of that.

 

[ironceltic12]

Thewizkid just posted about low igf levels while on gh and caber and when he came off the igf levels came right up

 

[nfernoo]

Thewizkid just posted about low igf levels while on gh and caber and when he came off the igf levels came right up

Thanks man.
Yeah I took generic hgh. And was taking raloxifene.
Igf was 150 and serum 29.

And my liver and stuff was fine.

I think we don't realize the effect anti estrogens/prolactin stuff has on the other stuff we take like hgh.
I can't do prami no matter what. That stuff kills me.

 

[Rjs025]

Thanks man.
Yeah I took generic hgh. And was taking raloxifene.
Igf was 150 and serum 29.

And my liver and stuff was fine.

I think we don't realize the effect anti estrogens/prolactin stuff has on the other stuff we take like hgh.
I can't do prami no matter what. That stuff kills me.

To my understanding, Raloxifene shouldn't be used to control prolactin, it will however prevent gyno from estrogen. Prami or Caber are popular choices to control prolactin while on a 19nor.

I have researched the topic in the past and it does seem common that Caber reduces IGF levels. There have even been a few studies on it I believe. Prami on the other hand reduces prolactin while even increasing GH secretion. Most people chose Caber over Prami though for the simple fact that Prami side effects tend to be too harsh on some people.

I feel that by supplementing Caber with tren or deca, you are negatively impacting gains by reducing IGF. I am going the Prami route from here on out if you ask me.