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Some of you might remember my post about possible fake genotropin here:
Long story short I was getting no noticeable effects from it when up to 7.5iu/day. Nothing. No sides either. No water, no lethargy, no increase rest HR. Got labs done
GH serum 5.5
IGF 78
A lot thought it was fake. A lot of people thought the tren played a role in low lab values. Compared to previous on TP black 5iu/day same protocol testing:
GH serum 16.8
IGF 411
Numbers were one thing but the lack of any noticeable benefit on $1500/month of pharma GH is what got me. Coach got super defensive as he had pushed me to use the brand and source saying if not that do none bc generic was "garbage".
New labs last week. Off tren for 3.5 weeks. I have reversed my diet and admittedly eaten way too much dessert and still held very good condition. I feel full and know there is some water. I have mild CTS at times. HR is fine. Just tight hands, tingling occasionally during the night. Labs
GH serum 34.3 (< 7.1)
IGF 340 (52-328)
So my labs are far higher on the generic both last time and this time. Yes I was taking the tren @50 a day and I now know that could've played a role. But that big a role? And still the no disernable benefit or side effects? My fingernails are growing at the rapid rate now. Same as before. Nothing on "geno". Anecdotal but just noting.
Other labs... 500 test a week, 5iu TP a day. 3.5 weeks off tren ace, oral winstrol and t3:
Test total 2646 (250-1100)
Test free 944 (35-155)
Estradiol 119 (< 29)
T4 4.6 (4.9-10.5)
T3 39 (22-35)
TSH 1.23 (0.4-4.5)
AST 100 (10-40)
ALT 231 (9-46)
Glucose 105 (70-99)
Just realized my fasting glucose on the geno was in the 70s and now was 105 on the same GDA. What does that mean.... I don't know. Just saying...
Deadlifted hard and heavy w back training the night before labs. Maybe 11hrs prior. Could be the liver values. Never had elevated liver values aside from a time I got labs done for non bodybuilding related right after a trip to New Orleans. Perhaps the training, tren/winstrol I'm recovering from... I'll get another set in a month to see.
Go back to old PCP that I trust next week (no more shit VA) to ask about blood pressure, sleep study and thyroid. He wanted me to do synthroid M/W/F before. Maybe I will do it. Maybe metformin instead of GDA.
And I think I'll start aromasin 12.5 EOD and see what that does. Estradiol is a little high but I don't feel anything so I don't want it crash it either.
More labs in a month. Thoughts welcome. Not throwing any stones. That situation is over. Regardless, TP is legit and I'll sticking w him from now on.
Long story short I was getting no noticeable effects from it when up to 7.5iu/day. Nothing. No sides either. No water, no lethargy, no increase rest HR. Got labs done
GH serum 5.5
IGF 78
A lot thought it was fake. A lot of people thought the tren played a role in low lab values. Compared to previous on TP black 5iu/day same protocol testing:
GH serum 16.8
IGF 411
Numbers were one thing but the lack of any noticeable benefit on $1500/month of pharma GH is what got me. Coach got super defensive as he had pushed me to use the brand and source saying if not that do none bc generic was "garbage".
New labs last week. Off tren for 3.5 weeks. I have reversed my diet and admittedly eaten way too much dessert and still held very good condition. I feel full and know there is some water. I have mild CTS at times. HR is fine. Just tight hands, tingling occasionally during the night. Labs
GH serum 34.3 (< 7.1)
IGF 340 (52-328)
So my labs are far higher on the generic both last time and this time. Yes I was taking the tren @50 a day and I now know that could've played a role. But that big a role? And still the no disernable benefit or side effects? My fingernails are growing at the rapid rate now. Same as before. Nothing on "geno". Anecdotal but just noting.
Other labs... 500 test a week, 5iu TP a day. 3.5 weeks off tren ace, oral winstrol and t3:
Test total 2646 (250-1100)
Test free 944 (35-155)
Estradiol 119 (< 29)
T4 4.6 (4.9-10.5)
T3 39 (22-35)
TSH 1.23 (0.4-4.5)
AST 100 (10-40)
ALT 231 (9-46)
Glucose 105 (70-99)
Just realized my fasting glucose on the geno was in the 70s and now was 105 on the same GDA. What does that mean.... I don't know. Just saying...
Deadlifted hard and heavy w back training the night before labs. Maybe 11hrs prior. Could be the liver values. Never had elevated liver values aside from a time I got labs done for non bodybuilding related right after a trip to New Orleans. Perhaps the training, tren/winstrol I'm recovering from... I'll get another set in a month to see.
Go back to old PCP that I trust next week (no more shit VA) to ask about blood pressure, sleep study and thyroid. He wanted me to do synthroid M/W/F before. Maybe I will do it. Maybe metformin instead of GDA.
And I think I'll start aromasin 12.5 EOD and see what that does. Estradiol is a little high but I don't feel anything so I don't want it crash it either.
More labs in a month. Thoughts welcome. Not throwing any stones. That situation is over. Regardless, TP is legit and I'll sticking w him from now on.