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CHINA laws MEGATHREAD

every source is saying the same thing, i guess its how many should we believe, most are liars.

Exactly...Most of these sources "talking" are nothing more then remailers for the FEW real sources that are actually supplying everyone.

All you keep hearing is "my source" this and "my source" that...The ones to believe are the guys that were in business long before all of these homebrewing sources and wannabe China raw suppliers popped onto the scene!
 
Exactly...Most of these sources "talking" are nothing more then remailers for the FEW real sources that are actually supplying everyone.

I agree 100%. What these "sources" may be talking about is moving to a new country, and finding a new factory to be middle man, sales person for. That is much more likely the situation.
 
Exactly...Most of these sources "talking" are nothing more then remailers for the FEW real sources that are actually supplying everyone.

All you keep hearing is "my source" this and "my source" that...The ones to believe are the guys that were in business long before all of these homebrewing sources and wannabe China raw suppliers popped onto the scene!

EXACTLY!!!
 
Also every source is stocked to last them all next year, Riigghht!! Lol let’s see about that one! I don’t believe much anymore:(. A source will tell you anything to keep getting your money. If they tell you we are screwed you will look for a new source right away. I ignore all the noise
 
So i wonder. When will we know for sure lol. End of Jan? Shit hit the fan, or sources run out of product. Sponsors start dropping like flies here. Will the China cops start doing raids over there. Im stocked up,but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Damn,my favorite hobby sending funds and running to my mailbox.
 
If anything would actually happen the "sources" and the people who "talked to my source today and he said...." will be more than happy to spread the word to drive up prices (kinda like they are now).

Sources and their associates want panic because it drives up demand and prices. All they have to do is say something to one guy who happens to be a loud mouth and he will spread panic on 4 different boards not even realizing someone is pulling his strings lol.
 
Oh yea we have been through these scares before. I remember I thought we were screwed with operation raw deal lol. Then when a big article came out about customs and usps coming out with this laser that would shoot through the package and no exactly what drug was in it. Nothing ever happened. But now this scare seems a little more serious.
 
It's possible the restrictions are more targeted on shipping than manufacturing. Licensed manufacturers will still produce but be forced to ship to other countries as warehouses that can then ship to the US. Who knows? Right now it's all up in the air.
 
It's possible the restrictions are more targeted on shipping than manufacturing. Licensed manufacturers will still produce but be forced to ship to other countries as warehouses that can then ship to the US. Who knows? Right now it's all up in the air.
That's what it sounds like to me.
 
Reality is you can go on Chinese based websites for news - and look on English ones as well for this information

I don't see anything regarding this..but maybe my search had bad results
 
Here is one thing I posted earlier, translated by google.

"
The Supreme People's Court issues "Explanation on Certain Questions of the Law Applying to the Trial of Criminal Cases of Smuggling, Illegal Business and Illegal Use of Doping" (with full text)
Supreme People's Court
Published: 11-2002:17 Press Bureau of the Supreme People's Court
On November 18, the Supreme People's Court issued the "Explanation on Certain Questions of the Law Applying to the Trial of Criminal Cases of Smuggling, Illegal Business and Illegal Use of Doping" (hereinafter referred to as "Explanation"). The Interpretation was approved by the 1781st meeting of the Trial Committee of the Supreme People's Court on November 12, 2019 and will be implemented on January 1, 2020.
"Explanation" adheres to Xi Jinping's new era of socialism with Chinese characteristics as a guide, implements the spirit of General Secretary Xi Jinping's important discourse and important instructions on sports work, adheres to the rule of law thinking, adheres to the problem orientation, and creates a favorable environment for promoting the healthy and sustainable development of sports and accelerating the construction of a sports power, in accordance with the provisions of the Criminal Law. The issue of conviction and sentencing for doping offences is provided for. The main clear is the following:
One is to strengthen source management. In accordance with judicial practice, the criteria for the conviction and sentencing of substances listed in the catalogue of smuggled stimulants are clearly defined. At the same time, it is stipulated that if the substances listed in the catalogue of illegal business are illegally operated and the substances involved are items restricted by laws and administrative regulations, the crime of illegal operation may be criminalized and punished.
The second is to punish illegal use. Those who expressly organize, force, induce, deceive minors or persons with disabilities who have guardianship and care responsibilities, who use stimulants illegally in sports, seriously harm the physical and mental health of minors or persons with disabilities, shall be convicted and punished for the crime of ill-treatment of the guardian or caregiver. It is clear that in sports such as sports and physical fitness tests covered by the national examination signed by the law on admission to colleges and universities and the recruitment of civil servants, the organization of candidates for illegal use of stimulants shall be convicted and punished for the crime of cheating in the organization of examinations. The crime of producing and selling food containing substances listed in the catalogue of stimulants shall be punished with the crime of producing or selling food that does not meet the safety standards, and the crime of producing or selling toxic and harmful food.
Third, compaction regulatory responsibility. If it is clear that the staff of state organs and the staff of units entrusted with the exercise of anti-doping administration authority in accordance with the law or entrusted with the exercise of anti-doping administration authority, who abuse their power or neglect their duties in the exercise of anti-doping administration authority, cause serious doping violations, seriously damage the reputation of the state or cause adverse social effects, shall be convicted and punished for the crime of abuse of power or dereliction of duty.
The Interpretation will provide a strong guarantee for winning the fight against doping, maintaining fair competition in sports competitions and protecting the physical and mental health of sports participants. (Reporter: Sun Hang)
Full text of the Interpretation:"

From here : http://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1650655188269513998
 
where did you originally find that -- thank you for posting
If you look back on the 1st page of this thread I posted up the webpage I found it on. I think it was another board. They even mentioned this board there.
 
Reality is you can go on Chinese based websites for news - and look on English ones as well for this information

I don't see anything regarding this..but maybe my search had bad results
Your right! I tried that also lol.
 
I like this line from that article " the crime of illegal operation may be criminalized and punished". I'm guessing they have child labor laws too...you see how those get enforced. Looks like their main focus is sports and primarily the Olympics. Did Russia finally get some harsh penalties thrown down on them for the Olympics and doping? These illegal sources that ship raws here will probably only need to pay the right people a large sum of money.
 
Supply and demand. Basic economics.....where there is a demand there will be a supply. The community has seen this throughout the years in many different forms. A "crack down" happens every so many years, becomes lax, then the cycle starts over again. Pun intended
 
Not unlike the heavily advertised banning in around 2015 - primary focus PED - a few China news articles talk of passing of new legislative penalties for trade of items as suggested however little detail ... wait and see
Where there a market there will always be a supply
 
Exactly...Most of these sources "talking" are nothing more then remailers for the FEW real sources that are actually supplying everyone.

All you keep hearing is "my source" this and "my source" that...The ones to believe are the guys that were in business long before all of these homebrewing sources and wannabe China raw suppliers popped onto the scene!


Inclined to agree with this as there are many sketchy sources and even manufacturers around.
Mine isn't one to worry about, but I won't get into it out of respect for this board and its sponsors.
 
I find it odd how much faith some people have in their source or supplier, like its some sort of bond or personal relationship and their source would never do them wrong or lie to them. it is nothing more than a business. a source treats a customer well because they want your business because that gives them profit, period. some sources have more integrity than others (just like car brands, or local retail stores) and are more customer service oriented. but at the end of the day no ones source is their friend, their guy, or their boy. unless they give you free gear because they like you, you are their customer and you are money to them and that is the extent of the relationship. a source has no obligation to pass on information to his clients IMO, because as we see on this thread and other threads, guys don't keep their mouths shut. loose lips sink ships and bodybuilders lips are as loose as they come.
 

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