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cjc dac and cjc no dac debate

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the usual debate about which is better because of bleed and pulses. Been having it with some buddies.

They are pushing that the constant bleed will tired out the pituary and stop firing gh pulses. my understanding there isnt a contant bleed, its multiple pulses when the pituary is ready again.

can anyone explain it better for a debate?
 

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"Bleed" according to RussianStar a doesnt have to mean a contant flow but rather up to 20 pulses throught the day.

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And the winner is...

CJC 1295 with DAC

:D

Both are great though.
 
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have to admit, im liking the cjc dac better so far. thanks for all the great logs
Elvia
 

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Best Way to Dose the DAC

When using large amounts of CJC-1295 DAC, say 4-5mg per week.

Is it better to dose:

a: 1mg Postworkout 4-5 times per week or
b: 2mg Twice per week prepbed or
c: .5mg Post Cardio and Post workout everyday?
d: .250mg 3 times per day at same time as GRHP-2.

With Grhp-2 taken at 100mcg 3 times per day.
 

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Clinical studies show us the opposite version...

If there was pulses every hour or so it could easily show as constant when measure in bloodwork. It depends how often it was measured I geuss.

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Sounds like a marketing ploy to get DAC off the shelves...

Not at all, dont like dont buy it.

But for those of you interested google RussianStar and Dac, He is a doctor who has been posting on peptides for years.

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No. You should read the studies...
Well, if you wish you can call 3-4 ng/ml as a pulse in comparison with 1-2 ng/ml

Which study are you referring to? what is one in comparison to the other is it peak and trough?

Ak
 

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Why do you suggest to split the dose into sow small injections?
Because of possible head rush? If you haven't that, you may pin 2 times a week, i.v. pref

Over 1mg Injections made me go red for hours like Id taken too much viagra. Felt like blood pressure was high.

Ive found post-workout "feels" like its being absorbed or utilised better. Especially after Legs and Back. Been using .5mg shots Post-Workout.

I.V really? Havnt tried that. Do alot of people use it I.V?
 

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I think, nobody has ever tried iv here :D
Actually sc bioavailability is only 50-70% for all of the peptides (it causes one of the DatBtrue's errors when he says 1 mcg/kg is a saturation dose).
So, iv can be 1,5-2 times more effective.
If you go red with sc then iv is dangerous for you... you may try deep i.m. - it is better than sc too.

You think I.M is more effective than SC? Post-Workout in the muscle just trained.?
 

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"GH responses to a single sc injection of CJC-1295. A, Serum GH concentrations (mean ± SD) are shown and suggest that pulsatile hormone secretion is maintained. "

Small excerpt from endocrine journal article on Conjuchem Dac. This is what RussianStar was refering to.

Ak
 

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All of you are shocked by the new information?;)
Nothing to say?
I see... Besides, a boy with attribute "founding member" is very rude with me in the neighbour thread! :mad:

:yeahthat: Not exactly "new" information per say but probably new to a lot of people who don't actually read the content of the studies.
 

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Was on DAC for 6 weeks at 1mg every other day with HA 100 mcgs at 3x a day. Did the last two weeks at 1 mg every 3rd day. Going back to 1mg every other day. 1mg every other day is anabolic for me. Every 3 days there was a noticable difference that was visible after the two weeks. Back on 1mg every other day for a week now and body is starting to get leaner at the same weight. May try 1mg every day sometimne in the future to see if there is a difference vs every other day. But for now DAC 1mg every other day with nothing else but HRT 75 mgs Test and 50 mgs Tren 2x a week is keeping me leaner with more muscle than anything in the past. Now 201lbs @ 10% BF at 5'11" and 55 years. 6 plus weeks ago I was doing HRT only then started DAC. Was 206lbs @ 15% so the DAC has done wonders for me with no other changes.
 

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When using large amounts of CJC-1295 DAC, say 4-5mg per week.

Is it better to dose:

a: 1mg Postworkout 4-5 times per week or
b: 2mg Twice per week prepbed or
c: .5mg Post Cardio and Post workout everyday?
d: .250mg 3 times per day at same time as GRHP-2.

With Grhp-2 taken at 100mcg 3 times per day.

This is also my question.
 

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I gave my rats cjc w/dac and I just did it all at once because the half life is 8 days so it won't matter much, IMHO.

I would do it every monday to keep things simple. I think you guys are over thinking this and not taking advantage of the long half life.

As far as the GHRP goes do it when you want to have a bigger pulse. So if you want to have a big pulse in the morning, pre-workout, and before bed then pin your rats with ghrp in the morning, pre-workout, and before bed.


Seriously, it's that simple.
 

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When using large amounts of CJC-1295 DAC, say 4-5mg per week.

Is it better to dose:

a: 1mg Postworkout 4-5 times per week or
b: 2mg Twice per week prepbed or
c: .5mg Post Cardio and Post workout everyday?
d: .250mg 3 times per day at same time as GRHP-2.

With Grhp-2 taken at 100mcg 3 times per day.

I would like to know the most optimal time too.

Just started 1mg per day this is day 4
 

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