Clen 2on/2off-Sassy??

[mauifit]

Iam starting a cycle of clen that I will run 2days on 2 days off- Iam wondering on the off days if its best to use another thermo or just stay off everything. The one thermo I was going to try that I heard was great is called HotRox Extreme. Or I have Trex by Anafit. Thanks!

 

[Sassy]

Since they banded Ephedrine, I haven't tried any of the newly formulated thermos. I don't know what to tell you about them. There are some people that swear by them and others that don't like them. It's one of things that you can try and see how you like them.

As for the clen... 2 days on 2 days off is the best way to use it. Personally I would stick with it and keep you diet very clean. Diet and cardo are the main key to getting lean. If you don't have your diet clean, then other supplements aren't going to work.

 

[phoenix13]

On my off days this past prep, i took Venom Hyperdrive (ALRI). The feedback on it is consistently favorable. Gave me steady, clean energy, and appetite supression, potent, never had to take full dose (2 pills).



ps: I can get ephedrine in gas stations in my state.

 

[mauifit]

Ok Thanks! So, on my two days off I would use a thermo of some sort, and not just take nothing correct? Also, how long do most people run this type of cycle? I have tried the 2 week on 2 week off for 6 weeks with great results but now Id like to try the 2 day approach.

My diet is right on, and Iam just trying to tighten up a bit more

 

[phoenix13]

Ok Thanks! So, on my two days off I would use a thermo of some sort, and not just take nothing correct? Also, how long do most people run this type of cycle? I have tried the 2 week on 2 week off for 6 weeks with great results but now Id like to try the 2 day approach.

My diet is right on, and Iam just trying to tighten up a bit more

well, you CAN use nothing, or go with the thermo on your off days. it's really up to you. i used a thermo in my off days b/c 1) i wanted (and needed) the extra energy boost and 2) i also wanted the other fat burning/metabolism/appetite suppression benefits on those days also. it's just to accelerate/enhance the fatloss and make the process "feel" a little more pleasant if you're dragging tail badly. if you are more inclined to overall well being, balance and health, i would just use green tea on your off days.

as far as how long, it varies. i've found 2days/2days can allow it to run longer. some people use it until they reach their goal (weeks, months), some until they feel it loses effectiveness or have reached a point of diminished returns. just remember, it is only a tool. i'd only use it sparingly and with a specific goal in mind (contest, photo shoot, vacation, wedding, etc.), then allow the body to get back to "normal" and learn to accept what you can create with diet, cardio and training.



as much as we'd like to be these walking works of perfection, it's sometimes good to step back and ask ourselves, am i trying to live up to someone else's standards of beauty/attractiveness? am i sacrificing my health and well-being for this? will i know when to back off or stop?

 

[EVERLAST]

well, you CAN use nothing, or go with the thermo on your off days. it's really up to you. i used a thermo in my off days b/c 1) i wanted (and needed) the extra energy boost and 2) i also wanted the other fat burning/metabolism/appetite suppression benefits on those days also. it's just to accelerate/enhance the fatloss and make the process "feel" a little more pleasant if you're dragging tail badly. if you are more inclined to overall well being, balance and health, i would just use green tea on your off days.

as far as how long, it varies. i've found 2days/2days can allow it to run longer. some people use it until they reach their goal (weeks, months), some until they feel it loses effectiveness or have reached a point of diminished returns. just remember, it is only a tool. i'd only use it sparingly and with a specific goal in mind (contest, photo shoot, vacation, wedding, etc.), then allow the body to get back to "normal" and learn to accept what you can create with diet, cardio and training.



as much as we'd like to be these walking works of perfection, it's sometimes good to step back and ask ourselves, am i trying to live up to someone else's standards of beauty/attractiveness? am i sacrificing my health and well-being for this? will i know when to back off or stop?

very good point here Phoenix13, when does it become necessary to take that step back and regroup? When I feel tired and feverish? When the progress stops? I saw a study once where pulse rates were elevated by a few beats above average normal in athletes when they were "overtrained"...Trouble is the premise requires a daily pulse reading upon waking to get the baseline reading.

 

[HotMama3]

I know this is sooo old!!!!

Maybe I will get an answer though.
I have also heard that when taking clen you can go 7 on and 2 off for 6 weeks. Is this ok to do?
Also as far as taking a thermo should you take it every day or just on clen off days? Has anyone tried lipo6? Or which has worked good for any of yall?

 

[marilyn]

Phoenix...

On my off days this past prep, i took Venom Hyperdrive (ALRI). The feedback on it is consistently favorable. Gave me steady, clean energy, and appetite supression, potent, never had to take full dose (2 pills).



ps: I can get ephedrine in gas stations in my state.

Phoenix,hi.... where can one find this, or more info?
I will want something like this soon that has at least two purposes.

 

[marilyn]

hi

Maybe I will get an answer though.
I have also heard that when taking clen you can go 7 on and 2 off for 6 weeks. Is this ok to do?
Also as far as taking a thermo should you take it every day or just on clen off days? Has anyone tried lipo6? Or which has worked good for any of yall?

Hotmama3, I have tried Lipo6 after Ephedrine was removed from all fat burners, and I did not really notice anything....it was only after clean diet and ,more intense workouts that I noticed a change.....I'm not taking anything now, but start to look for something too very soon for a little extra help to prepare for show.

 

[phoenix13]

Phoenix,hi.... where can one find this, or more info?
I will want something like this soon that has at least two purposes.

Marilyn, I'm not sure what you are referring to here.

Venom Hyperdrive: google it. most online supplement shops have it.

ephedrine: It's legal in some states and sold at gas stations. You may also find it by a google search.

 

[phoenix13]

Maybe I will get an answer though.
I have also heard that when taking clen you can go 7 on and 2 off for 6 weeks. Is this ok to do?
Also as far as taking a thermo should you take it every day or just on clen off days? Has anyone tried lipo6? Or which has worked good for any of yall?

I've never heard of 7 on/2 off.

I would prefer to take thermos OFF days, essentially alternating fat burning aids.

Venom Hyperdrive is one of the few that agrees with me.

 

[aeliop]

Here you go Marilyn

Phoenix,hi.... where can one find this, or more info?
I will want something like this soon that has at least two purposes.

Here you go M

Here is the E in the famous ECA stack

**broken link removed**

 

[EVERLAST]

OT but applies....

I'm asthmatic and take Mucinex as well as Bronchodilators.
Mucinex has psuedoephidrine and so do the OTC bronchodilators.
Added 2 together without knowing it was duplicated (psuedoephidrine dose)
and got a pretty good fat burner by accident.

 

[marilyn]

thanks...

Marilyn, I'm not sure what you are referring to here.

Venom Hyperdrive: google it. most online supplement shops have it.

ephedrine: It's legal in some states and sold at gas stations. You may also find it by a google search.

Ok, thanks....I actually had a catalogue, Tony just reminded me....yahoo!!!energy for life!!!!, ok, just kidding

 

[muscledoc1]

On my off days this past prep, i took Venom Hyperdrive (ALRI). The feedback on it is consistently favorable. Gave me steady, clean energy, and appetite supression, potent, never had to take full dose (2 pills).



ps: I can get ephedrine in gas stations in my state.

ALRI'S venom is an awesome product,i agree.

 

[hngrygrl]

On my off days this past prep, i took Venom Hyperdrive (ALRI). The feedback on it is consistently favorable. Gave me steady, clean energy, and appetite supression, potent, never had to take full dose (2 pills).



ps: I can get ephedrine in gas stations in my state.

I just ordered a few bottles of the venom hyperdrive monday am cuz they're guna pull it real soon, just fyi.
I got an email from the FDA (I work in healthcare) and they're considering pulling it because its been mislabeled. It actually has the same chemicals in it as the diet drug Merena (sp?) and that drug is a CiV
Heres the info I got:
FDA notified consumers not to take Venom HYPERDRIVE 3.0, a product sold as a dietary supplement but containing sibutramine, an undeclared drug product and a controlled substance with risks for abuse or addiction. When present in a dietary supplement, it may harm unsuspecting consumers because sibutramine can substantially increase blood pressure and heart rate, and may present a significant risk for people with a history of heart disease, heart failure, irregular heart beats or stroke. The product was sold via distributors and in retail stores nationwide and was packaged in red plastic bottles containing 90 capsules each with the UPC# 094922534743. Consumers who have this product should stop taking it immediately and contact their health care professional if they have experienced any adverse effects.

If you dont mind my asking.....how'd you like it? Really?
Did you heart race? Did you have more energy in the gym? Did your BMs change (sorry, I get worried about that! =) LOL!)
Thanks!

I never liked Clen. I'd be sitting in class and my whole body would be shaking

 

[sizeon]

phesuephedrine

ya what is that stuff in the cold medicines that is stricly just this ingredient and how closely related is to ephedrine? any down sides?

 

[EVERLAST]

psuedo...

not sure on spelling but this is a synthetic version of the naturally occuring chemicals in the Chinese ephedra plant.

 

[hngrygrl]

its a decongestant in almost all cold medicines. in most states you its behind the rx counter and it has a 2 box max because its used to make meth (at least here in NE). Nearly everything with "cold and sinus" attached to the name contains it.

Pseudoephedrine (commonly abbreviated as PSE) is a sympathomimetic amine commonly used as a decongestant. The salts pseudoephedrine hydrochloride and pseudoephedrine sulfate are found in many over-the-counter preparations either as single-ingredient preparations, or more commonly in combination with antihistamines, paracetamol (acetaminophen) and/or ibuprofen. Sudafed is a trademark for a common brand which contains pseudoephedrine hydrochloride, though Sudafed PE does not.

Unlike antihistamines, which modify the systemic histamine-mediated allergic response, pseudoephedrine only relieves nasal congestion commonly associated with colds or allergies.

The advantage of oral pseudoephedrine over topical nasal preparations, such as oxymetazoline, is that it does not cause rebound congestion (rhinitis medicamentosa); however, it is more likely to cause adverse effects including hypertension.

Pseudoephedrine is being phased out as an over-the-counter drug in some countries and replaced by less effective alternative decongestants such as phenylephrine, due to pseudoephedrine's notable popularity as a precursor in the illicit synthesis of methamphetamine. Internationally, pseudoephedrine is listed as a Table I precursor under the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances.[1]

 

[phoenix13]

THANKS for the heads up, hngrygrl!!

I am very sensitive to stimulants/fat burners in general...feel anxious on them. I found Venom to to be the most "comfortable" one I've tried. I felt a clean kind of energy buzz, but it was pleasant. No crash either.

I didn't shake. Yes, more alertness, energy. As far as BM's are concerned...when I used it, I was prepping which for me means that I am VERY EFFICIENT in general so I did not notice a change particular to the addition of that supplement.

I was told by ALRI rep at Jr. Nat's that they were upgrading the formula to make it stronger which was kind of nuts to me b/c I never even used the full dose with the original formula.