clomid during cycle

[Haldy]

I have no access to HCG.
Was wanting to know your guys thoughts on running 50mg clomid ED throughout cycle to minimize HTPA.
In the past i have only used arimidex during my cycles, and clomid PCT.
lets here your guys thoughts

 

[preist943]

you mean to minimize HTPA shutdown ? I have heard many people say it helps .I have yet to find a study that proves it . for sure if your on a long time it will keep your nuts from turning into peas .I never use hcg I like to tapper off the dose of gear very slow over about 8 weeks and use clomid and nov post cycle .

 

[xcelbeyond]

Back in the 80's I was taught to ramp up and ramp down steroids. I thought this was no longer "realistic" because you're either supplying you body with exogenous hormones (shutting down your HTPA) or not - which means completely off exogenous hormones.

During the "ramping periods," you're not taking-in effective amounts of gear and NOT getting your body either used to gear (ramping up) or used to not having gear (ramping down) - it is going to SHUTDOWN (HPTA) regardless of the amount. That is why I always advocate switching to fast esters at the end of a cycle - so one can take measures ASAP to recover their natural HPTA - post cycle therapy (PCT).

I'm probably just blowing smoke, but that's my understanding of the methodology.

 

[Flexfactor]

Back in the 80's I was taught to ramp up and ramp down steroids. I thought this was no longer "realistic" because you're either supplying you body with exogenous hormones (shutting down your HTPA) or not - which means completely off exogenous hormones.

During the "ramping periods," you're not taking-in effective amounts of gear and NOT getting your body either used to gear (ramping up) or used to not having gear (ramping down) - it is going to SHUTDOWN (HPTA) regardless of the amount. That is why I always advocate switching to fast esters at the end of a cycle - so one can take measures ASAP to recover their natural HPTA - post cycle therapy (PCT).

I'm probably just blowing smoke, but that's my understanding of the methodology.

Yes the 80's

I agree with you totally on the ramping up and down it doesn't make a difference and you are better off with consistant blood levels.

 

[FRKNHUGE]

i take it all during my cycle, if anything, it gives peace of mind for me
but i think it was my savior when i did my fina only cyc, it kept the lil guy goin, if ya know what i mean
frk

 

[MikeS]

Yes I use it always, but EOD 50mg. It makes a difference for sure. Its an estro blocker-and estro is the main cause of HPTA shutdown from AAS use. Its blocking action seems especially sensitive to the pituatary, unlike Nolvadex (another blocker) which works better on sites where estro stimulated fat accumulates (gyno).

 

[preist943]

Back in the 80's I was taught to ramp up and ramp down steroids. I thought this was no longer "realistic" because you're either supplying you body with exogenous hormones (shutting down your HTPA) or not - which means completely off exogenous hormones.

During the "ramping periods," you're not taking-in effective amounts of gear and NOT getting your body either used to gear (ramping up) or used to not having gear (ramping down) - it is going to SHUTDOWN (HPTA) regardless of the amount. That is why I always advocate switching to fast esters at the end of a cycle - so one can take measures ASAP to recover their natural HPTA - post cycle therapy (PCT).

I'm probably just blowing smoke, but that's my understanding of the methodology.

No that is the current belief of most, however even doggcrapp believes hpta recovers somewhat during the cruise of his methods. I just gave weaning a try once and I seemed to keep more muscle and felt better so I have stuck with it