conflicted on whether to tell my doc or not???

[ssdark1]

i have a docters appt. end of this month to get bloodwork done and just a general check up bc i havent seen him in a few years. i would really like to tell him about my aas use and have his cooperation in monoriting my health.

im hesitant bc of stories like bn's where his insurance wouldnt cover his med bills bc of documented use. it seems like something my doc would need to know, but im not sure.

also, im considering blast and cruise as im approaching 30 and im sick of losing all my hard earned gains. i know people will say that you can keep ur gains while off but, if i stay off for a significant enough time for my levels to recover, no matter what i do, i always end up right back at 218 to 220lbs when i come off. im sure i will be on trt in 10 years anyways so...

i would really like to have my docs "guidance" on all this, but dont want to sabotage myself in the event that i need major insurance coverage.

any advice? on the dr. situation or the decision to blast and cruise???

 

[Pain]

I have always told my docs, and never had a problem with ins. Though you might ask your doc if you can have an "off the record" conversation with him. If you get the feeling he isn't cool, I am sure your plan wil allow you to change doctors. I can honestly say that EVERY primary doc I have ever had has been super cool with me. I did visit an Endo. once and that got hairy lol
As for the blast and cruise theory, I dunno. Some guys can do their 3 or 4 cycles a year with the recommended off time and keep plenty of gains. I have another buddy that has to do retarded amounts of gear just to be 220. Though he looks like the freakiest 220, at his height I've ever seen (wiuth nothin but a bow-tie on giggety giggety ... srry personal joke lol)
I will say most of the real freaks I know tend to blast and cruise ... or really just exist in varying levels of blast lol. That answer I will leave to your conscience as to what kind of life you want to lead, and to the advise of better men than me.

 

[maldorf]

I know that it wasnt until I started to cruise inbetween my cylces that I had my heart attack. It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it. I would advise against staying on year long.
As far as telling your doc. I told mine and I had a heart attack about 5 years later and all was paid for. With that heart attack I rang up about $250,000 in bills and they took care of it for me. I never had a single issue and I now at least one doc wrote about my use in the medical records. I dont think its legal for them to descriminate against you for using steroids. I know that rec drug users are covered for their mishaps. Like if you have a heart attack when you are using cocaine, it is covered. Hell, health insurance offers rehab coverage for people to get off. I think the only time you run into problems is if you were using steroids back when you were uninsured. then you get the prexesiting conditions going on where you had a condition but were not covered at the time. they usually dont have to pay for any problems you have for an entire year after you are covered. I think this all differs state by state so you have to look it up for your state.

 

[ssdark1]

thanks for the replies so far

i dint even think about the fact that rec drug users are covered, good point.

the more reading i do on blast and cruise the more i convince myself that it can be done safely. although i may not only be justifying, but also, reading opinions from others who are justifying.

i would keep it simple- blast at 5-600 a week and cruise at 150 to 200 a week with hcg periodically.

its a big decision and i greatly value all of the educated opinions and experiences this board has to offer...

 

[phatrr]

There's other issues that can raise their head down the road if your use gets documented.

I went to a doc in the 90's, and was taking DHEA. I told him I was, didn't think twice about it. He noted it in my chart.

Fast forward 12 years: I go to get life insurance, and am denied, b/c my medical records have a note "Patient is taking anabolic steroid DHEA". I call the doc back, and say "Hey, can you explain to the life insurance people that DHEA is an OTC supplement, that you can buy it at GNC?"

He refused, and said that maybe this would teach me a lesson about abusing my body with steroids.

I would proceed with caution.

 

[maldorf]

There's other issues that can raise their head down the road if your use gets documented.

I went to a doc in the 90's, and was taking DHEA. I told him I was, didn't think twice about it. He noted it in my chart.

Fast forward 12 years: I go to get life insurance, and am denied, b/c my medical records have a note "Patient is taking anabolic steroid DHEA". I call the doc back, and say "Hey, can you explain to the life insurance people that DHEA is an OTC supplement, that you can buy it at GNC?"

He refused, and said that maybe this would teach me a lesson about abusing my body with steroids.

I would proceed with caution.

Good point. Life insurance would definetely be affected.

 

[Pekkerwood]

I would never get steroid or HGH documented in my medical records. That doesn't mean I would discuss it with my doctor. I would just have to be certain he would not document it.

 

[trenbo12]

my doctor knew straight away about my aas use.
my BMI said i was clinically obese with a six pack
from a blood test my rbc was through the roof!

 

[Gunsmith]

Talk to your dr about it off the record , explain the situatio and agree to have blood work done before , mid way and after the cycle , if you have a decient supplement and diet program and you dont get stupid with the doses he will see the he has been in the dark on steroid related side effects.

in my oppinion the blast cruise thing is a bad idea unless you in you 40's and need HRT anyway , run a sain dose for a reasonable time , use HCG during and taper off. Your to young to kill your nuts , the need to come back

 

[repmks]

don't tell him anything. what is he going to tell you that you do not know already?

too many risks.

 

[Gunsmith]

don't tell him anything. what is he going to tell you that you do not know already?

too many risks.

like what

 

[ssdark1]

after some thought, i think ill hold off telling him out right and just tell him i want bloodwork and blood pressure checked and im sure he will figure it out. i guess he could still put it in my records regardless of me admitting it or not?

hell, i may be better off just monitoring it myself through an online lab, and just go to my doc for blood pressure checks.

as for the blast and cruise, i know its not the best decision, so i will continue to take time off regularly. coming off sucks, and i was so close to just saying fuck it. thanks for the honest replies.

still unsure on the whole doc situation, i guess its a gamble. doesnt seem to be much upside in telling him, but a possible huge downside.

 

[Gunsmith]

other than getting bitched at whats the down side?

How many dope addicts go to the Dr everyday? and I'm not talkiing the run of the mill slum scum , but other dr's , teachers , lawyers and on and on. Their is no down side to being up front with your Dr. , if your not and your shit is out of wack he is going to go looking for things to treat that don't exist and thats just stupid.

Unless he is a total asshat , he should respect the fact that your honest with him and come to him with concerns of your health. Worst case is that he will "fire" you as a patient and refuse to treat you , more than likely refer you to sombody that is more inclined to your lifestyle.

Its not like your goin to him for the drugs , your going to him for your health and thats all he should be worried about

 

[taslajrisi]

agree

Talk to your dr about it off the record , explain the situatio and agree to have blood work done before , mid way and after the cycle , if you have a decient supplement and diet program and you dont get stupid with the doses he will see the he has been in the dark on steroid related side effects.

in my oppinion the blast cruise thing is a bad idea unless you in you 40's and need HRT anyway , run a sain dose for a reasonable time , use HCG during and taper off. Your to young to kill your nuts , the need to come back

I had a very hard time coming back. I am 42 now and finally my doc put me on hrt test cyp. I did do aggressive pct hcg, clom, nolva and still tested low on total test. It was a no brainer for my doc to give me hrt. I have to say, i feel a LOT better now (libido, energy, size, strength).

 

[repmks]

like what

not being able to get life insurance or health insurance in the future?

 

[ssdark1]

other than getting bitched at whats the down side?

not being able to get life insurance or health insurance in the future?

thats a pretty big down side, and from testimonials just from this board, certainly a possibility.

 

[Gunsmith]

If you don't tell the insurace company then they won't know about the AAS useage only the symptoms and side effects that will show up from the required test.

If your doctor tells anybody about your drug use he can and should be sued for malpractice as he has broken doctor/patient confidentiality.

again if you don't keep your Dr. in the loop about the usage and you do end up with some sort of negitive side effects like liver trouble , heart trouble or whatever he will have to do ALOT more searching to find the possible cause , but he he knows that your use anabolics then he can quickly either rule them out or narrow the search down savine you both time and money.

But to each his own I guess , good luck

 

[Gunsmith]

and by the way , you can get life insurace no matter what you do or take , I had taken out a million dollar policy when I was considering taking a job with a close protection securty company in Iraq , doing basicaly the same shit the Seceret Service does for the president here but for high risk people over their and I guarntee that is alot more dangerous than juicing

 

[Eureka]

I dont mean to ride on your thread, but would you go see the doctor while on cycle or off??

 

[Gunsmith]

I dont mean to ride on your thread, but would you go see the doctor while on cycle or off??

Certainly , why not? it will give you a good baseline of where you stand when your clean and give you a haeds up an any problems that are their. Say you get your labs drawn a week before you start and they come back not so good , bad cholestrol numbers , poor liver values and on and on , would you still start the cycle and possibly make things worse? if you didn't have them check and had these troubles then 2 months down the road when the problems are bigger as showing up you would blame the gear on all of it and I think thats what happens alot of times.

Kinda like giving blood , I can't see a vaible reason not to unless you have some sickness that forbids you.

Getting blood work done and keeping your Dr. in the loop IS good "insurance"