cycle assistance please

[ajmaui]

I want to add some bulk so I'm adding some dbol to my cycle but not sure about the other additions that would be good as well. Here's what I'm thinking:
test enan at 500mg wk
dbol at 25mg ed before workouts
tren a at 100mg eod
npp at 100mg eod
letro at .25(mg?) day
milk thistle
maybe prami at .25/day
Going to start the DC workout because I've been training forever but need to bust past some plateaus.
I am prone to gyno so I thought I'd add in the letro but at a low dose to hopefully not affect libido because me and the fiance like to hit it every day. Also not sure about the combo of the dbol, tren and npp?! Should I leave out the deca all together because it has caused deca dick in the past, and I just recently read that Phil strongly recommends against it as well. Also is that combo a sure bet for gyno even if doing the letro? And I hope the letro I have is of good quality...got It over 6 months ago from RS with some Prami. I've used half of the prami already but havn't even opened the letro yet I dont think...the stories I read of killing the libido at the time discouraged me from trying it unless gyno actually did appear and was necessary to take. So should I start the Letro now or only take if symtoms start to appear of gyno?...as I've heard that it takes awhile to get into the system. And is anyone aware of how long the liquid letro and prami is stable for and expiration time? Sorry..I know a million questions but Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bros!

 

[Johnny Smiles]

where to begin...

that cycle is over kill. you prolly aren't even doing a show right? wtf? tren and dbol and npp?
you are gonna SKY ROCKET your blood pressure. that is actually one of the dumbest cycles i have seen put together.
DBOL cuz you want bulk!?!!?!?!? how bout EAT MORE FOOD. and by bulk do you mean fat and bloat? cuz bulk is not lean muscle. bulk is fat water and no discipline to eat right.

why not up the TEST? 500mg is baby dose. especially if you are not a newb. IMO test should almost always be higher dosed than other compounds. then you wouldnt have to worry so much about not being able to get erections and "hitting it" every day.
AND excessive blood pressure can interfere with erections so there is another reason to back off the dbol and tren and npp.

and why the constant dose of test? why not up it to break plateuas as you go and you might find you never needed the dbol or tren or npp to get past the plateuas you mentioned and you will be MUCH healthier for it. -JS

 

[ajmaui]

Solid Advice Johnny!

LOL. Thanks man. That's exactly the staight forward advice I needed. Ya I'll be the 1st to admit I'm not the most savey when it comes to planning this shit so thanks for being there to set me straight. I'll up the test then for sure and then only add 1 of the others (dbol, tren , or npp) at a time for short periods of time. So maybe go up to a gram of test a week and then do the dbol for like a month on, month off....tren month on, month off...etc. Sound better or am I still sounding retauded?!

 

[6packguy]

LOL. Thanks man. That's exactly the staight forward advice I needed. Ya I'll be the 1st to admit I'm not the most savey when it comes to planning this shit so thanks for being there to set me straight. I'll up the test then for sure and then only add 1 of the others (dbol, tren , or npp) at a time for short periods of time. So maybe go up to a gram of test a week and then do the dbol for like a month on, month off....tren month on, month off...etc. Sound better or am I still sounding retauded?!

There are other things to consider before drawing a conclusion. How long have you been using gear? Are you on HRT or cycling? If your cycling how many cycles have you done? What was your average dose? I would not jump from 500 to 1,000mg just like that if you have been running 500mg cycles.

 

[prime52]

arent tren and npp both 19nor compounds?

 

[FIRE0808]

Just run the classic Test e and dbol will be sufficient to make you put on bulk.

 

[Bigcheese]

I want to add some bulk so I'm adding some dbol to my cycle but not sure about the other additions that would be good as well. Here's what I'm thinking:
test enan at 500mg wk
dbol at 25mg ed before workouts
tren a at 100mg eod
npp at 100mg eod
letro at .25(mg?) day
milk thistle
maybe prami at .25/day
Going to start the DC workout because I've been training forever but need to bust past some plateaus.
I am prone to gyno so I thought I'd add in the letro but at a low dose to hopefully not affect libido because me and the fiance like to hit it every day. Also not sure about the combo of the dbol, tren and npp?! Should I leave out the deca all together because it has caused deca dick in the past, and I just recently read that Phil strongly recommends against it as well. Also is that combo a sure bet for gyno even if doing the letro? And I hope the letro I have is of good quality...got It over 6 months ago from RS with some Prami. I've used half of the prami already but havn't even opened the letro yet I dont think...the stories I read of killing the libido at the time discouraged me from trying it unless gyno actually did appear and was necessary to take. So should I start the Letro now or only take if symtoms start to appear of gyno?...as I've heard that it takes awhile to get into the system. And is anyone aware of how long the liquid letro and prami is stable for and expiration time? Sorry..I know a million questions but Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bros!

I'm assuming your diet and training are dialed in.

*I'd run the letro at .25mg/eod or as low a dose as ya can and still be effective.
* I personally prefer bromo at 2.5mg bid when cycling progestins (Nopersonal experience with prami as Bromo works finefor me).
* I would start the letro and bromo or prami as soon as I start the cycle if not before.
* Test E dose is reasonable
* your dbol dose is very reasonable
* Tren dose is reasonable
*NPP dose sounds reasonable (I dont have personal experience with this compound YET)
*Milk thistle - always good.
*Consider Low dose HCG 2-3 times a week alongwith this cycle.

I see nothing wrong with your cycle as long as youdo it wisely.

The above is based on personal experience. Ive cycled all the above compounds together (Nandrolone Dec. though, Not NPP) as well with no problems. Sometimes Just "eating more" isnt the answer.

The AI should keep the bloat down which will in turn help keep you blood pressure under control.

Tren & NPP both 19 nor, yes. Hence his mention of prami.

You have obviously researched and know about the compounds you are gonna cycle, that I respect. U just need some practical advice/tweaking.

Hope this helps,

BC

 

[200mg/ml]

ajmaui assistance

I never post and I dont want to bust your balls, but yeah that original cycle plan is ridiculous (although not the worst i have seen). Our brother is right-how about eating for bulk. If you eat heavy and semi-clean w/500test plus just one additional component.(I.E. D-Bol preworkout and a second dose 8 hours later). If you keep going slightly heavier-U WILL GROW BRO!
love and respect man.

 

[robbie1375]

great advice guys..!