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Cycling DES with MGF?

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Was thinking about running the proposed peptide cycle to try for some light hyperplasia;

4 weeks 150mcg IGF1-DES 5x a week intra workout
4 weeks 400mcg IGF-MGF-PEG 2x a week post workout
4 weeks 150mcg IGF1-DES 5x a week intra workout

My understanding the two work in different ways to allow hyperplasia; differentiation for DES, proliferation for MGF.

Was planning on using a higher volume/pump routine to stretch some fascia and workup some lactic acid for the DES, in conjunction with Anadrol/Cialis pre-workout. Will be running 350 testE/550 trenA during the 12 weeks.

Any thoughts?
 
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1) Very few sources with legit IGF1-DES
2) injectable MGF and pegylated MGF do not work, no matter the source.

If you wanna increase MGF, then take GH. Which obviously also increases IGF1 production. In principle, your idea about MGF and IGF acting synergistically is correct, though. It's just that injectable MGF does not go where it needs to.

Still, IGF1-DES can have a value as an (extremely pricey) pump supplement. But no matter how big and bad your pump, you won't get significant fascia stretching out of it. For that, you would have to go with (risky and hard to execute) site injections.
 

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1) Very few sources with legit IGF1-DES
2) injectable MGF and pegylated MGF do not work, no matter the source.

If you wanna increase MGF, then take GH. Which obviously also increases IGF1 production. In principle, your idea about MGF and IGF acting synergistically is correct, though. It's just that injectable MGF does not go where it needs to.

Still, IGF1-DES can have a value as an (extremely pricey) pump supplement. But no matter how big and bad your pump, you won't get significant fascia stretching out of it. For that, you would have to go with (risky and hard to execute) site injections.

Thanks for verifying my theory, it sounded decent on paper, but I havent heard of anyone cycling between the two, rather people just blindly run them all together at smaller doses...

DES is cheap to make, usually meaning its pure, and there's less fakes, it's also relatively stable especially compared to LR3. There's plenty of fitness pro's who thrive with IGF peptides, the most notable being Artemis Dolgin (love him or hate him.)

We're talking about 6mg of DES and 4mg of MGF for less than $200, that wouldnt even be able to buy 8 weeks of GH at a small dose.

Not to mention GH creates more systematic hypertrophy than hyperplasia, i'm following this peptide run with 6iu's of gh and 10ius slin but I want to bring up lagging muscles before I go full blast on the systematic hypertrophy.

I'll be in a calorically balanced diet through these 12 weeks, so the idea is also to make some small decreases in bodyfat while having wicked pumps and bringing up weak bodyparts. If anything, tren and drol alone will do that.
 

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Recombinant (i.e. bioactive) IGF1-DES is not cheap to make. For legit suppliers like Sciroxx, it costs about the same as LR3.

But you seem very set in your ways, so go ahead and waste money on non-bioactive DES from some cheap source and some completely useless MGF.

GH creates more systematic hypertrophy than hyperplasia
:banghead:
 

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I love MGF non peg, Not sure what your talking about! but I notice a major increase in recovery from site injections post in muscle just Trained.
 

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I love MGF non peg, Not sure what your talking about! but I notice a major increase in recovery from site injections post in muscle just Trained.

we're clearly too set in our ways :naughty:
 

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Well I know its No Placebo effect!..lol
 

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