Total BS. Dave doesn't look so old he looks sick, that is your warped perception, he looks fine. He stays super lean FOR health reasons, and being lean year-round isn't unhealthy if it's done right. Jay, Milos, and Dennis are all still cycling is why they look like that lol, Dave is the one taking the ultra-healthy route and not even doing TRT anymore, staying super lean, not carrying too much muscle, etc.