Degression back to Progression

[Armageddon]

I said I'd do it and here it is I guess. The first pics that I have put up here and they maybe the worst ever and I like it. This is great motivation for me. I will maintain a journal of everything that I do, starting 1/29 which is monday. Some I will post some I maynot due to the nature of the beast. The first set of pics is me in late may early june and I maintained this body composition well into late july. Then I dislocated my Lt wrist playing ball. This allowed for me to train or play, I couldn't due both in a weeks time as it created to much pain. So I balled it up and played my ass of and will be going to Vegas to play in the Casino Bowl, which isn't a big deal but it helped me to realise some goals.
The Second set of pics are from mon/tues of this week. I've lost around 20-25lbs muscle gained alot of fat and look like shit. I don't like it by no means, but I'm comfortable in my condition. Years ago if I looked like this I would be Disgusted and work everyday to change and try to do it over night- RETARDED I Know. I'm comfortable in my own skin and haven't been that way in a long time, hard concept to follow or accept for some.
I will follow these posts up with what my training will look like, diet (which Skip helped me alot with, and I will continue to use him!), some supplementation, and a "daily journal."
A day in the life of a non famous non average Joe/Meathead basically. Lets hear it as it all drives me in my motivation

 

[Armageddon]

Sickly

These are the pics from this week.

 

[Armageddon]

Diet

There's always potential for change but it's what I'm going to go with until it doesn't work or as well.

7:30
8oz lean meat
2tbsp natural peanut butter

10:30
5oz lean meat (beef, chicken)
5 eggs (only 2 yolks)
2 cups grenn veggies

12:30 Train

2:30 or so Post Workout
60g protein
60g carbs (2 instant oatmeal)
mix in mason jar and drink

4:30
Large Red Apple
6oz lean meat
4 egg whites

7:00
8 oz lean meat
1 tbsp olive oil
2 cups veggies (green)

10:00
60g Protein Powder
1 tbsp Flax Oil

Approxiamate Totals
70g Carbs
336g Protein
58g Fat
2,146 Calories

 

[tenny]

You'll be suprised how quick everything comes back, plus some

good luck......all of us are pulling for you

 

[flexmaster]

HOLY CRAP

not to be rude bro, but you look like a completely different person! its going to be crazy seeing all that come back in the next 3 or so months...good luck bro...im looking forward to seeing your changes!

 

[hikneeken]

agreed with flex

i wouldn't have believed it was the same person in the 2 sets of pics

what is your welcome back cycle look like?
and is that the diet you used for the first set of pics?
weight now?

 

[Got Juice]

Arma,

ONCE A SWOLL MOFO ALWAYS A SWOLL MOFO. dude youve been there before, you KNOW what it takes for you to get back...

muscle memory is a great thing man. hit the diet and gym for a month and you will once again look like a completely different person.

your frame definitely can handle mass well. i could never get to the size you were before you got injured.

good luck man,

 

[Armageddon]

The diet listed is what I was doing before. It's low in calories but at the time I had a hang up about being fat and Skip was changing things around to fit my class schedule.
Weight now is 207.5 and the I was around 228 to 234, it would fluctuate with all the cardio. I was running alot!!! Trying to stay big and in shape for football. As far as supplements goes it's protein powder and good food! I'll talk about anything else at a later date. I don't see you guys as being rude or anything like that, it does look like two different people. We'll see what happens!

 

[haze324]

Good luck man - these pics are very motivating. I am in the process of rehab and hopefully will be back in the gym at 100% in a few months and know exactly what you feel. I've never been this skinny and fat at the same time.

Good luck man. Stay motivated and you know the deal consitancy is key!

 

[Armageddon]

There are twon things that I wish I didn't have to endure getting back into this: 1- How sore you get off of the simplest workouts lo 2- Re-learning how to get all the food down. That's the better of the two I think though as I like to eat. But the first week was great, struggled to get some of the food in due to work but it's better than what I was doing! It's about time to step up the training, I was going to only do light workouts for a few weeks to get implemented back into the swing of things but fuck that. I want to train heavy again.

Some back ground so I can see how strength returns and progress's onward and upward. Some previous lifts: My chest is weird, my incline is stronger than my flat? I can/could get 425/435 on bench with 405 for maybe 2 on a good day. But I could bench 315 almost 15 times. I did 225, 22 times at my last tryout. I'd like to improve on the 315 & the 225 but not to worried about the 435. I pretty much train with only db's for chest. This is how much stronger my incline is: 405 for 2 sets of 12 easy and maybe one more for 7/8 Never Tryed to go beyond that as I was afraid of damaging the shoulders even more. My shoulders are fairly strong, 315x1 fpr presses which is great to me with having extreme bursitis. 225x15 so I was very happy with all that. Arms are my strongest, but my triceps lacked to most developement I thought. I tried all kinds of things to get those damn triceps to grow but they just couldn't manage to keep up with my Biceps, which drownd out the tris. If my tri's were perportionate to the biceps I would be completely happy with there developement. Abs are abs and I don't really care about them, I mean I want them lean but I don't want them to be blocky and over developed. More streamline than anything. My legs drive me crazy as there strng then weak and back and forth. I know what causes this is all the running for football. At my strngest which actually coincides with my fastest times I was hitting some good lifts: 605x6, 405x20, 225x40 in the old squat rack. I know I'm not one of the strongest guys here but these were lifts that I was happy with at the time and would like to get back to and surpass.

 

[Armageddon]

Supplementation: Previously I used some glutamine and aLc and just protein powder. This time around I'm going to go alittle more in depth and see what I can do. I'll use the glutamine, aLc, a multi-vitamin & mineral supplement, Bcomplex, some Bcaa's and I'll have to play it by ear from there.

As far as gear goes, I can lay out what I would do in a complete and total hypothetical situation only as I would never consider using! If I was going to do it I would of for the first pics gone with a DC style 4on 2off deal. That could possible consist of the first 4 wks:50mg Prop ED and 20-40mg anavar then the next 2 wks would be 250-300mgs cyp. Next 4wks: Suspension 50mg ED in divided 25mg doses am/pm along with 37.5mg fina ED. Followed by 2 wks of 250-300mg cyp. Then I could do 4wks: Prop 75mg ED with 30-40mg winny and 37.5mg fina ED, followed by the cyp for two weeks. If I were to have done this I would've included 2iu's GH on a daily basis and after a few weeks switched to a 5on 2off schedule. Included would also have to be the aLc with mag to reduce the sting. This is what I would have considered for the first pics if I use gear.

To get back to form, there are many ideas out there that are intriguing. I like Big Kiwi and Magnums idea of low androgens and higher anabolics. But the DC blasts work really well. Not exactly sure what one would do. Maybe 125mg sust ED for 5wks and at wk 4 start 300mg Eq and do that for around 10-12 wks and then cruise for 3 wks and do into a DC blast again with 50-75mg Prop with either 20-40mg of winny or a50 then cruise for 2 wks and go into 6wks of 300-500mg Eq, then into another blast with 50mg susp and 30-40 mg Halo and see were you'd be after that. But you'd have to also have the GH in there as well. It would be a low dose of course, maybe 4iu's for the first month then back to the 2iu's.

If I were to use it would always be at the lowest possible dosages, until there were absolutly no gains left. I can't see going much over 1g as long as your getting more out of less. Plus it would save on the pocket book. These are just some of my ideas for myself, I know many would differ but that's what makes us great.

 

[Iabadman]

Keep up the good work my friend ....dont flake .....I will be watching and rooting for you along the way ................i am glad that you are doing this .........i expect you to look the best that you have ever looked by the time the thread is over ......dont pull a JT and not finish what you started here .....lol ..............Stay focussed ......my best to you

 

[Armageddon]

I'm glad I'm doing this and putting myself out there, there's now no room to slack. Don't worry I won't flake out. I appreciate all the support. I'm ok with myself, but the more I train the more I'm disappointed with myself to allow an injury to let me slack and not take care of myself. It would have been one thing not to train cause of my wrist but I could have ate right and done cardio. IT's bullshit that I didn't take it up as a different kind of challenge! But it is what it is and I'll fix it and go into it with more experience and knowledge. On a positive side I like what has happend within a weeks time already. I'm clean and will stay that way and to see my body start to bounce back that way is great. Granted there is a long road, but I plan on cutting that road down to size and get back.
I do have one problem that sucks, I have to train at the Y. Good eye candy, shitty atmosphere and lacks equipment. Looks like complete back to basics. Only a few exercises for me!

 

[lynx]

It sucks being hurt. It's easy to say, "To heck with it!"
I'm glad you're getting better and have set some goals for yourself.
Looking forward to seeing your transformation.

 

[Armageddon]

I almost thought of taking pics tonight, but didn't. I know my body can't really change that much within a week. But yet I feel so much different, better, alive, healthy. Haven't touched a drop of the devil (alchohol) in over 2 months. I'm not a big drinker anyways but when you keep winning and have pain it tends to happen. I'm going to be hammered at the A classic though!
I'm going to tighten things down with the meals even more this next week and clamp down, plus start the cardio as I think I'm ready for the full fledge assault on fitness.

 

[SlingBlade]

Quite a difference. Great job!

 

[bigbadasian]

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|--[\\\]>--------- Bro, it's all good. it'll come back real quick just like everyone says. I posted this a few weeks back, but i took off right after Xmass, to just last week, like a mth off with no sups and no trianing, i loved it! i worked, relaxed, gave my body rest and finalized the purchase of my 2nd condo! Now, being back 'on' and starting training, i have gained back about 8-9 lbs already (little over 1 week) and i'm going to start the 1st phase on monday of lifting heavy again. Good luck to you A!

 

[Armageddon]

Almost three weeks or so being back in the gym and things are coming around really well! I'm going to post some new pics here in a day or two and see what's going on. There maynot be much of a difference but I sure feel like there is! Well I'll get them up.

 

[Jrflex10er]

PUMP IT UP BIG MAN!!! WE ALL know you have it in YOU!

 

[lynx]

...we're watching you...

Just checking in on you, seeing how things are coming.