Dr.’s Hrt method for lowering hemoglobin.

[Kaladryn]

What were your results? I remember your thread in the Hrt forum when you posted results using 18mg/day but I didn’t see your labs off 10mg and no AI?

10mg/day with no AI is putting me at these levels:

ESTRADIOL (pg/mL) 22

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS (ng/dL) 632

FREE TESTOSTERONE (pg/mL) 76.1

Also was this without donating blood? Or you donated and it just stopped climbing?

Yes, without donating, my crit dropped 5 points in 3 months on 10mg (and only two of those months was at 10mg levels)

10mg will be my standard cruize, MAYBE 12 but I suspect E2 will climb too much at 12, and 632 actually high for my age.

 

[Thebigone]

I recently got an ultra sensitive Estradiol test done as well as my standard Estradiol to see the difference as Dr. Chrisler states how important ultrasensitive estradiol is and regular E2 is worthless here:
The powerful effect of estrogen - Dr. John Crisler

I bumped my test up to 25mg ED from 20mg ED and increased Adex from .25mg 2x per week to .25mg 3x per week.

Results from the 20mg Cyp IM ED and Adex .25mg 2x per week.
11/29/18
Bloods drawn approx 30hrs after last 20mg test shot and approx 72hrs after last .25mg Adex:

Total Test 694 range 250-827
Albumin 5 range 3.6-5.1
SHBG 22 range 10-50
Free Test 130.9 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 297.8 range 110-575
Estradiol E2 35 range < Or = 39 pg/ml


And here are recent results from 25mg Cyp IM ED and Adex .25mg 3x per week.
2/22/18
Bloods drawn approx 24hrs after last 25mg test shot and approx 24hrs after last .25mg Adex:

Total Test 904 range 250-827
Albumin 4.7 range 3.6-5.1
SHBG 18. range 10-50
Free Test 214.9 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 460.7 range 110-575
Estradiol E2 22 range < Or = 39 pg/ml

Estradiol,
Ultrasensitive
LC/MS/MS. 10 range < Or = 29 pg/ml

 

[Thebigone]

I recently got an ultra sensitive Estradiol test done as well as my standard Estradiol to see the difference as Dr. Chrisler states how important ultrasensitive estradiol is and regular E2 is worthless here:
http://drjohncrisler.com/the-powerful-effect-of-estrogen.html

I bumped my test up to 25mg ED from 20mg ED and increased Adex from .25mg 2x per week to .25mg 3x per week.

Results from the 20mg Cyp IM ED and Adex .25mg 2x per week.
11/29/18
Bloods drawn approx 30hrs after last 20mg test shot and approx 72hrs after last .25mg Adex:

Total Test 694 range 250-827
Albumin 5 range 3.6-5.1
SHBG 22 range 10-50
Free Test 130.9 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 297.8 range 110-575
Estradiol E2 35 range < Or = 39 pg/ml


And here are recent results from 25mg Cyp IM ED and Adex .25mg 3x per week.
2/22/18
Bloods drawn approx 24hrs after last 25mg test shot and approx 24hrs after last .25mg Adex:

Total Test 904 range 250-827
Albumin 4.7 range 3.6-5.1
SHBG 18. range 10-50
Free Test 214.9 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 460.7 range 110-575
Estradiol E2 22 range < Or = 39 pg/ml

Estradiol,
Ultrasensitive
LC/MS/MS. 10 range < Or = 29 pg/ml


Estrogen is too low. Going to drop Adex to .125mg 3x per week and see labs. My Dr. and I both agree Estradiol should be in the mid/high 30’s and Ultra Estradiol mid/high 20’s

 

[nothuman]

10mg/day with no AI is putting me at these levels:

ESTRADIOL (pg/mL) 22

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS (ng/dL) 632

FREE TESTOSTERONE (pg/mL) 76.1




Yes, without donating, my crit dropped 5 points in 3 months on 10mg (and only two of those months was at 10mg levels)

10mg will be my standard cruize, MAYBE 12 but I suspect E2 will climb too much at 12, and 632 actually high for my age.

This is great information. It's a damn shame if anyone ever wanted to up the dose or add an anabolic, it would quickly rise back up. I'm thinking the 10mg daily dose along with a little HGH will make someone look better than someone on 200mg per week without HGH.

 

[Thebigone]

This is great information. It's a damn shame if anyone ever wanted to up the dose or add an anabolic, it would quickly rise back up. I'm thinking the 10mg daily dose along with a little HGH will make someone look better than someone on 200mg per week without HGH.

At least we still have HGH, IGF, peptides and insulin. Did anyone ever find out if a double red cell would be beneficial? I believe they only take out the same 500 mL of blood but double the red blood cells or do they take out more than 500 mL?

 

[emeric delczeg]

I recently got an ultra sensitive Estradiol test done as well as my standard Estradiol to see the difference as Dr. Chrisler states how important ultrasensitive estradiol is and regular E2 is worthless here:
The powerful effect of estrogen - Dr. John Crisler

I bumped my test up to 25mg ED from 20mg ED and increased Adex from .25mg 2x per week to .25mg 3x per week.

Results from the 20mg Cyp IM ED and Adex .25mg 2x per week.
11/29/18
Bloods drawn approx 30hrs after last 20mg test shot and approx 72hrs after last .25mg Adex:

Total Test 694 range 250-827
Albumin 5 range 3.6-5.1
SHBG 22 range 10-50
Free Test 130.9 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 297.8 range 110-575
Estradiol E2 35 range < Or = 39 pg/ml


And here are recent results from 25mg Cyp IM ED and Adex .25mg 3x per week.
2/22/18
Bloods drawn approx 24hrs after last 25mg test shot and approx 24hrs after last .25mg Adex:

Total Test 904 range 250-827
Albumin 4.7 range 3.6-5.1
SHBG 18. range 10-50
Free Test 214.9 range 46-224
Bioavailable test 460.7 range 110-575
Estradiol E2 22 range < Or = 39 pg/ml

Estradiol,
Ultrasensitive
LC/MS/MS. 10 range < Or = 29 pg/ml


Estrogen is too low. Going to drop Adex to .125mg 3x per week and see labs. My Dr. and I both agree Estradiol should be in the mid/high 30’s and Ultra Estradiol mid/high 20’s

You can drop Adex, totally,and replaced it with chicken embryo extract.

 

[emeric delczeg]

This is great information. It's a damn shame if anyone ever wanted to up the dose or add an anabolic, it would quickly rise back up. I'm thinking the 10mg daily dose along with a little HGH will make someone look better than someone on 200mg per week without HGH.

Well I am glad that you start believing in the low dose method.

 

[nothuman]

Well I am glad that you start believing in the low dose method.

It's really all about the hematocrit for me. I'm sick and tired of always donating blood.

 

[Thebigone]

Well I am glad that you start believing in the low dose method.

With your low dose method what do you like to see free test levels at?