Emeric- Humanofort equivalent?

[myosin]

Really, to anyone who can help, I just presumed Emeric would have the most info on this...

Preface: Humanofort, being a great supplement, is not really all that "mainstream" though. Even though you may find it at VS, etc., it seems it's more a "hardcore" BB supplement.

Concern: Since it seems not a "popular" supplement with the masses, I wonder how financially worth it is it to the company, and eventually, they'll discontinue it. As of now, I think only two company's make it.

Question: Should Humanofort/Humanovar be discontinued, what might be an equivalent to it? Either in it's actual ingredients (a while back I posted that Humanofort is essentially "Balut", an egg dish from the Philppines- look it up), OR, in how it functions in the body.

Thanks!

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Really, to anyone who can help, I just presumed Emeric would have the most info on this...

Preface: Humanofort, being a great supplement, is not really all that "mainstream" though. Even though you may find it at VS, etc., it seems it's more a "hardcore" BB supplement.

Concern: Since it seems not a "popular" supplement with the masses, I wonder how financially worth it is it to the company, and eventually, they'll discontinue it. As of now, I think only two company's make it.

Question: Should Humanofort/Humanovar be discontinued, what might be an equivalent to it? Either in it's actual ingredients (a while back I posted that Humanofort is essentially "Balut", an egg dish from the Philppines- look it up), OR, in how it functions in the body.

Thanks!

Emeric gave the rights to Labrada.....his rights have run out and he is selling the rest of his stock.......Emeric is taking it back and wil be the only one selling true Humanofort.........from now on..........BTW one company makes it..Emeric has the rights to sell it.

 

[myosin]

That helps...

Thanks, Phil

That pretty much answers it as far as my concern goes... so long as Emeric doesn't stop selling it! Don't stop Emeric!

But, just for interest's sake, it would be interesting to hear his take on the part of my question as far as equivalency goes.

 

[emeric delczeg]

Thanks, Phil

That pretty much answers it as far as my concern goes... so long as Emeric doesn't stop selling it! Don't stop Emeric!

But, just for interest's sake, it would be interesting to hear his take on the part of my question as far as equivalency goes.

Balut is not exactly the same as Humanofort, Humanofort is a purified extract from embryonated chicken eggs and the main components of Humanofort are tow oligopeptides of 5,000 and 10,000 daltons molecular weight. Balut is food not supplement, Humanofort is free of cholesterol, and fat, and Balut is not. You can eat Balut all day long and it would not regulate your Adrenal glands out put. Also is the Balut has to be very fresh so you don`t and up with food poisoning.

 

[myosin]

Thanks, partly kidding...

Balut is not exactly the same as Humanofort, Humanofort is a purified extract from embryonated chicken eggs and the main components of Humanofort are tow oligopeptides of 5,000 and 10,000 daltons molecular weight. Balut is food not supplement, Humanofort is free of cholesterol, and fat, and Balut is not. You can eat Balut all day long and it would not regulate your Adrenal glands out put. Also is the Balut has to be very fresh so you don`t and up with food poisoning.

haha, thanks for the reply Emeric... I was mostly joking with the reference to Balut here and before. Seeing as how Balut is basically cooked embyronic chicken/duck eggs. Interestingly though, granted it's anecdotal, devout Balut followers swear it's great for the libido and joints.

Adrenal glands- yes, of course that makes sense. It seems that is largely Humanofort's role.

Don't stop selling it!

 

[DatBtrue]

I have only researched in an area kinda of related.

First thing I did was determine that Mario DiPasquale was wrong in dismissing Humanofort and that like several statements I have followed up on Mr. DiPasquale is just plain wrong.

I'm not privy to exactly what those small peptides are... the Romanian company (like so much from Romania good bad & indifferent) keeps the ball hidden. Which is fine...

There is enough anecdotal evidence that it has a positive effect, such as skin rejuvenation and enough science on the types of small peptides that could be the ones in the product for me to believe it is effective. I'm happy it isn't going away.

My research specifically is focused on skin rejuvenation but the problem I have is that I want to use Epidermal Growth Factor which I'd want to reach the dermis but it is 5000kda This and other factors I want to use are way too large to penetrate the skin so I need to come up with some form of electrical stimulation to help.

Here is an example of a few other factors I'd like to add:

"Fibroblast growth factor 2 (FGF-2 or bFGF) and transforming growth factors beta 1 and 3 (TGF-b1, TGF-b3), which are potent promoters of collagen formation found in the current studied growth factor mixture (14), are the most plausible candidates for the stimulation of collagen formations"​

This is from a study on a proprietary prescription only cream used mostly for burn victims.

All of this is expensive & my research is never ever ever intended to result in a product to sell. No way no how!

It would probably cost (at the moment) $5000 per month to target the entire face and require a special machine to help penetration.

Does any of this seem practical? Nope. Doesn't mean I won't play with it just to figure out how to rejuvenate aging skin.

Marylin gets great results using Humanofort on her skin. It seems to be a practical and inexpensive way to penetrate to the dermis and increase stimulation of collagen formations.

 

[emeric delczeg]

I have only researched in an area kinda of related.

First thing I did was determine that Mario DiPasquale was wrong in dismissing Humanofort and that like several statements I have followed up on Mr. DiPasquale is just plain wrong.

I'm not privy to exactly what those small peptides are... the Romanian company (like so much from Romania good bad & indifferent) keeps the ball hidden. Which is fine...

There is enough anecdotal evidence that it has a positive effect, such as skin rejuvenation and enough science on the types of small peptides that could be the ones in the product for me to believe it is effective. I'm happy it isn't going away.

My research specifically is focused on skin rejuvenation but the problem I have is that I want to use Epidermal Growth Factor which I'd want to reach the dermis but it is 5000kda This and other factors I want to use are way too large to penetrate the skin so I need to come up with some form of electrical stimulation to help.

Here is an example of a few other factors I'd like to add:

"Fibroblast growth factor 2 (FGF-2 or bFGF) and transforming growth factors beta 1 and 3 (TGF-b1, TGF-b3), which are potent promoters of collagen formation found in the current studied growth factor mixture (14), are the most plausible candidates for the stimulation of collagen formations"​

This is from a study on a proprietary prescription only cream used mostly for burn victims.

All of this is expensive & my research is never ever ever intended to result in a product to sell. No way no how!

It would probably cost (at the moment) $5000 per month to target the entire face and require a special machine to help penetration.

Does any of this seem practical? Nope. Doesn't mean I won't play with it just to figure out how to rejuvenate aging skin.

Marylin gets great results using Humanofort on her skin. It seems to be a practical and inexpensive way to penetrate to the dermis and increase stimulation of collagen formations.

The good news is that the cream has the FGF Growth factor and the TGF-b1,TGH-b3 and you don`t need any special machine to help the penetration. See attachment for prove.

 

[DatBtrue]

The good news is that the cream has the FGF Growth factor and the TGF-b1,TGH-b3 and you don`t need any special machine to help the penetration. See attachment for prove.

Wow! That is great news. The quote which highlighted those growth factors came from a study that used a very expensive & hard to obtain (for cosmetic purposes) solution which is described as follows:

"The cream was developed at the University Hospital of Lausanne, Switzerland, inspired by fetal skin’s unique ability to heal without scarring after surgery in utero. The growth factor and cytokine mixture was obtained through a biotechnology process using cultured human fetal fibroblasts, which originate from a dedicated cell bank established for the development of products in wound healing."​

They applied the cream to the face twice daily over a period of 6 months. Here is their picture is worth a thousand words.

​

After finding "improved clinical appearance of periorbital and perioral wrinkles by 33% and 25% on average" they concluded:

In conclusion, the results of this study corroborated the beneficial use of a human growth factor and cytokine skin cream for skin rejuvenation. The study further indicated that efficiency is a function of time with a significantly more pronounced reduction of wrinkles after prolonged use (i.e. 6 months) of the cream. The ultrastructural data indicating new collagen correlates with the observed clinical improvements.​

Keep in mind that they highlighted TGF-b1, TGF-b3 & FGF-2 as being the paramount stimulators of collagen formation in the dermis and your product contains those factors!

So what good is anti-aging protocols if you can't make your skin more youthful?

Thanks for posting up E and thanks for starting this thread myo.

 

[marilyn]

good post...

I do believe the results, thanks DatBtrue...but because I did experience positive results myself...

Any little brown spots from too many fun beach days are practically gone....Emeric has a pic of my face with no make-up, and he was very happy with results as I was....right now, dieting my skin looks a little different, but will look as it did soon after contest with more hydration and a little more fat on my cheeks, lol....oh yeah, and sleep.

Phil and Emerics post are for real as you may know....the other other products are not the same and Labrada is just selling the rest of the stock as stated by Phil....I can say that as a true user and believer of the face cream and Humanofort now for at least 6 months.Love them both!!

 

[emeric delczeg]

Wow! That is great news. The quote which highlighted those growth factors came from a study that used a very expensive & hard to obtain (for cosmetic purposes) solution which is described as follows:

"The cream was developed at the University Hospital of Lausanne, Switzerland, inspired by fetal skin’s unique ability to heal without scarring after surgery in utero. The growth factor and cytokine mixture was obtained through a biotechnology process using cultured human fetal fibroblasts, which originate from a dedicated cell bank established for the development of products in wound healing."​

They applied the cream to the face twice daily over a period of 6 months. Here is their picture is worth a thousand words.

View attachment 28036​

After finding "improved clinical appearance of periorbital and perioral wrinkles by 33% and 25% on average" they concluded:

In conclusion, the results of this study corroborated the beneficial use of a human growth factor and cytokine skin cream for skin rejuvenation. The study further indicated that efficiency is a function of time with a significantly more pronounced reduction of wrinkles after prolonged use (i.e. 6 months) of the cream. The ultrastructural data indicating new collagen correlates with the observed clinical improvements.​

Keep in mind that they highlighted TGF-b1, TGF-b3 & FGF-2 as being the paramount stimulators of collagen formation in the dermis and your product contains those factors!

So what good is anti-aging protocols if you can't make your skin more youthful?

Thanks for posting up E and thanks for starting this thread myo.

I know about this study, and realized that I have a more complex natural growth factor extract, and I can make a much better cream.

Take a look of the photos before and after with skin rosacea.

 

[loudog]

my mother has rosacea really bad where can Emerics facial cream be purchased ?

 

[emeric delczeg]

my mother has rosacea really bad where can Emerics facial cream be purchased ?

Ask your mother if she wiling to lat me use her photos before and after, and I will give her the cream free.

 

[Gambel]

Emeric-Keratosis Pilaris?

Emeric,

Any idea if your cream would be effective on patients with keratosis pilaris? It seems the standard topical treatments are only effective in a handful of patients. Your product sounds very promising!

 

[emeric delczeg]

Emeric,

Any idea if your cream would be effective on patients with keratosis pilaris? It seems the standard topical treatments are only effective in a handful of patients. Your product sounds very promising!

Which type you have,the Rubra , Rubra faceii or Alba? I know would help the Rubra and Rubra faceii, I have not see any body with the Alba to try it out.

 

[w8tlifterty]

So once the rights run out, where can we buy emerics humanofort? I'm an avid user>

 

[emeric delczeg]

So once the rights run out, where can we buy emerics humanofort? I'm an avid user>

You will be able to buy it from the same places that you are buying it know.

 

[Gambel]

Which type you have,the Rubra , Rubra faceii or Alba? I know would help the Rubra and Rubra faceii, I have not see any body with the Alba to try it out.

Those I have encoutered that find it most problematic have had the simple rubra variant on their arms. Have you had any one with rubra use it with success? Thank you very much for the reply. I appreciate your expertise.

 

[emeric delczeg]

Those I have encoutered that find it most problematic have had the simple rubra variant on their arms. Have you had any one with rubra use it with success? Thank you very much for the reply. I appreciate your expertise.

Yes.

 

[Gambel]

I will definitely recommend it then when it becomes widely available. Thank you for the follow up.

 

[Mr_Magoo]

so will I still be able to purchase Labrada Humanofort and will it be the same as Emerics?