Epiphony on GHRH/GHRP protocol

disgraziato · Apr 3, 2009

I first ran cjc/ghrp a while back before it became a craze, started a couple months before Papa's run. He and I experienced VERY similar results, ie:weight gain, water retention, > BP, etc. I took about 4 to 5 months off and have started the protocol anew. Now here's the kicker: after about a year of first running this, I have discovered what it truly has done to my physique. I cut every spring into summer like most of us do, and my completed cut weight is always between 160-170, depending on how low my bf gets.I am currently a month into my cutter and see obvious fatloss, due to increased cardio and sharp decrease in calories. My muscle is remaining...at this point in the cut I should weigh in at 175 or so, judging on past experience and the fatloss I see in the mirror. I am holding at 210

!!! I've never been that weight during/after my cutter...50 lbs heavier than previous years? I now see that the protocol has induced hyperplasia, causing my basal mean body weight to jump 50lbs, and I know most of this 50lbs is muscle(some water)due to my image in mirror. This is newly created muscle hyperplasia, and this muscle will be with me forever.
Papa, anything similar on ur end?

papapumpsd · Apr 3, 2009

disgraziato said:
I first ran cjc/ghrp a while back before it became a craze, started a couple months before Papa's run. He and I experienced VERY similar results, ie:weight gain, water retention, > BP, etc. I took about 4 to 5 months off and have started the protocol anew. Now here's the kicker: after about a year of first running this, I have discovered what it truly has done to my physique. I cut every spring into summer like most of us do, and my completed cut weight is always between 160-170, depending on how low my bf gets.I am currently a month into my cutter and see obvious fatloss, due to increased cardio and sharp decrease in calories. My muscle is remaining...at this point in the cut I should weigh in at 175 or so, judging on past experience and the fatloss I see in the mirror. I am holding at 210!!! I've never been that weight during/after my cutter...50 lbs heavier than previous years? I now see that the protocol has induced hyperplasia, causing my basal mean body weight to jump 50lbs, and I know most of this 50lbs is muscle(some water)due to my image in mirror. This is newly created muscle hyperplasia, and this muscle will be with me forever.
Papa, anything similar on ur end?

Hey disgrat, great to hear you're seeing results (amazing ones at that!)! Thanks for sharing your feedback too.

For me, I have seen excellent increases in strength and size. Now, it's not all muscle...no way. Do I think I've gained muscle mass? Absolutely. My strength has increased as well. I look much more musclar too. I cannot wait to see what I look like after I drop 15lbs. I'm ~215 right now. I have a lot of work to do in regards to cutting, but I cannot wait to see how I look.

Last summer I was at ~178lbs and decently lean (nothing eye-popping, just decent). There's no way in hell I'm holding >35lbs of fat and water right now (meaning there's def. new muscle). Keep in mind I've only ran GHRH/GHRP for ~3 months in the past and I recently hopped back on (along w/some oral AAS) so my gains may not be as significant as your disgrat!

I can provide more results after I get into the cut more.

chris250 · Apr 8, 2009

How long did you run these peptides to get this muscle ???

disgraziato · Apr 8, 2009

I ran 300mcg grf/ghrp-6 each a day, in 3 doses for just about 8 months. While on, I gained much weight, bloated up, and had persistent high BP, despite my efforts to lower it.Now that I'm dropping fat and minimizing bloat, I see the new muscle.
On a side note,I had a pretty severe BB injury in mid-2007 and started an LR3 protocol, helped enormously to speed recovery, I feel, and it bulked me up very noticeably; BUT, I very noticeably lost that size upon ceasing the product. Idk wtf that means, but just wanted to impart my experiences.