extremely high dose of igf-1 lr3

[mooch2321]

hey guys...im a transplant from am....i noticed a thread over here a while ago where one of your members stated that he injected igf, 1 time in a high dose 400-500mcg per head of his quad....datbtrue acknowleded that this may indeed be a better way to use igf....well, i intend to try something similar with my calves...i was thinking 300mcg into each large head and 200mcg into the outside head....this would be a preworkout inject....i was also thinking of using 10ius of slin( 5iu im in each calf) post workout...along with 15iu of growth(7.5iu im into each calf) any thoughts on this...any feedback is welcome

 

[jm425]

The lr3 version of igf-1 works as a mild glucose transporter much like slin. Therefore IMO, slin isn't needed. However, why do you want to do the igf-1 pre workout? It would be better pwo. You should talk to saudes about this since he's the one that reported growth off using 300-400mcgs of igf on his quads.

 

[mooch2321]

The lr3 version of igf-1 works as a mild glucose transporter much like slin. Therefore IMO, slin isn't needed. However, why do you want to do the igf-1 pre workout? It would be better pwo. You should talk to saudes about this since he's the one that reported growth off using 300-400mcgs of igf on his quads.

i will be the first to admit that my knowledge with peptides is wanting...that is why i posted this....as far as post workout/preworkout injects for the igf-1 i have seen many users reporting good results with a preworkout inject and sipping on waxy or some other fast carb while working out....i personally only have experience with a post workout inject....and as far as the slin, you dont think their would be any added benefit?

 

[disgraziato]

I remember your post on another board....been looking forward to your research on the large dosing of the lr3.......go to it brother and log those results....

 

[mooch2321]

I remember your post on another board....been looking forward to your research on the large dosing of the lr3.......go to it brother and log those results....

yes...i started this on anabolic minds....but the peptide forum over there really doesnt have a lot of educated posters it seems....dat and now papapumped are never their anymore so im branching out a little....i was going to log this at am but i guess i can post it over here as well....the order is on the way so i will probably have a mini log going next week....

 

[papapumpsd]

yes...i started this on anabolic minds....but the peptide forum over there really doesnt have a lot of educated posters it seems....dat and now papapumped are never their anymore so im branching out a little....i was going to log this at am but i guess i can post it over here as well....the order is on the way so i will probably have a mini log going next week....

Hey Mooch, glad you're branching out Def. log that here (PM)!

 

[chris250]

Has anyone run into any sides with doses that high ???

 

[mooch2321]

Has anyone run into any sides with doses that high ???

i dont know many people who have ran it that high....mabye saudes can chime in...

 

[DatBtrue]

...and as far as the slin...

Keep in mind that IGF-1 can exacerbate insulin's reduction in blood glucose and actually make it a little less predictable.

Here are some old numbers for you:

Day #1
8iu Humulin-R

Pre-WO nutrition + shake
BCAAs during WO

PWO:
Time 0: 8iu IM Humulin-R; 80g Malto/ 54g Protein
+10 mins: Blood 103
+20 mins: Blood 119
+30 mins: Blood 124
+50 mins: Blood 113
+ 1 hour: Oatmeal (22g carbs) + strawberries/ Tuna (33g protein)
+1:30: Blood 108
+2 hours: Blood 95
+2:20: Oatmeal (22g carbs)/ 54g Protein shake
+3 hours: Blood 91
+4:20: Blood 90

Day #2
8iu Humulin-R + 20mcg IGF-1 LR3

Pre-WO nutrition + shake
BCAAs during WO

PWO:
Time -10mins: 20mcg IGF-1 LR3 split bilaterally
Time 0: 8iu IM Humulin-R; 80g Malto/ 54g Protein
+10 mins: Blood 120
+20 mins: Blood 110
+30 mins: Blood 101
+40 mins: Blood 106
+50 mins: Blood 109
+ 1 hour: Blood 88; Oatmeal (22g carbs) + pear/ Tuna (33g protein)
+1:30 Blood 118
+2 hours: Blood 100
+2:20 Oatmeal (22g carbs)/ 54g Protein shake
+3 hours: Blood 83; grapes (10g carbs)
+3:20 Blood 103
+4:20: Blood 101​

 

[Designbuilt]

Keep in mind that IGF-1 can exacerbate insulin's reduction in blood glucose and actually make it a little less predictable.

Here are some old numbers for you:

Day #1
8iu Humulin-R

Pre-WO nutrition + shake
BCAAs during WO

PWO:
Time 0: 8iu IM Humulin-R; 80g Malto/ 54g Protein
+10 mins: Blood 103
+20 mins: Blood 119
+30 mins: Blood 124
+50 mins: Blood 113
+ 1 hour: Oatmeal (22g carbs) + strawberries/ Tuna (33g protein)
+1:30: Blood 108
+2 hours: Blood 95
+2:20: Oatmeal (22g carbs)/ 54g Protein shake
+3 hours: Blood 91
+4:20: Blood 90

Day #2
8iu Humulin-R + 20mcg IGF-1 LR3

Pre-WO nutrition + shake
BCAAs during WO

PWO:
Time -10mins: 20mcg IGF-1 LR3 split bilaterally
Time 0: 8iu IM Humulin-R; 80g Malto/ 54g Protein
+10 mins: Blood 120
+20 mins: Blood 110
+30 mins: Blood 101
+40 mins: Blood 106
+50 mins: Blood 109
+ 1 hour: Blood 88; Oatmeal (22g carbs) + pear/ Tuna (33g protein)
+1:30 Blood 118
+2 hours: Blood 100
+2:20 Oatmeal (22g carbs)/ 54g Protein shake
+3 hours: Blood 83; grapes (10g carbs)
+3:20 Blood 103
+4:20: Blood 101​

I'm by no means an expert on this subject, I'm doing some research now though, hence the reason I'm reading this.

But would Humalog be a better choice than Humalin-R to keep the blood sugar a little easier to control? Especially if the subject is going to administer doses that high of Igf-1?


I understand that the above are numbers probably posted for illustrative purposes as to how Insulin affects Igf-1, blood sugar etc.

I am just asking hypothetically if Humalog would be a better choice, or if Humalin is actually better because of steady supply and duration of compound?

 

[jm425]

IMO, it is easier to control your blood sugar levels provided you know what your doing on humalog compared to humalin-r because log leaves your system faster based on experience.

 

[J-DOO]

IMO, it is easier to control your blood sugar levels provided you know what your doing on humalog compared to humalin-r because log leaves your system faster based on experience.

I have been told to use Igf-1 right after work out and inj sub instead of Imo which is the best way imo or sub?