First attempt with peps..

[silverTT]

Hey guys this is my first attempt with peps and going to be using CJC1295 Dac. I've read a considerable amount and there seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas/opinions now on the use of CJC Dac.

I had purchased 6mg of the DAC recently and plan to start in the next few days but have come across more controversy. I was planning a conservative dose at 500mg every 4 days.
Some say the DAC is worthless or unadvised by itself. I understand the concept of the GH bleed and the more 'feminized' pattern of release, however I was wondering if short term use is 'detrimental' or 'unadvised'.

I will still try it at 1mg/wk like I was planning and may add in a GHRP should it be totally necessary. However I wanted to start slow and see what one compound would produce as opposed to placing multiple agents in at one time.

 

[silverTT]

I think it would also be pertinent to include age and I am 30..
I have had considerable experience with AAS but have not been on anything for several years..

My diet is very down to point..
Training is pretty much so aside from work schedule..

 

[silverTT]

sorry one more thing...

I'm a paramedic so I work shift work and my sleep schedule sucks sometimes. I also work 24hr shifts so it would be kinda difficult to provide myself with 2-3 injects per day especially when on shift.
I understand the point behind the mod CJC/GHRP but sometimes that just isnt an option.

Wondering if doing a 3/day dosing schedule on days off and taking shift days off would be ok. That wouldnt be a 5 on 2 off schedule exactly but it would afford me 2 days to abstain from injs. It basically wouldnt be regimented..

 

[Michaelthomasj]

Hey guys this is my first attempt with peps and going to be using CJC1295 Dac. I've read a considerable amount and there seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas/opinions now on the use of CJC Dac.

I had purchased 6mg of the DAC recently and plan to start in the next few days but have come across more controversy. I was planning a conservative dose at 500mg every 4 days.
Some say the DAC is worthless or unadvised by itself. I understand the concept of the GH bleed and the more 'feminized' pattern of release, however I was wondering if short term use is 'detrimental' or 'unadvised'.

I will still try it at 1mg/wk like I was planning and may add in a GHRP should it be totally necessary. However I wanted to start slow and see what one compound would produce as opposed to placing multiple agents in at one time.

Doing that alone is a waste of money and time

 

[silverTT]

Well unfortunaly that was my first inkling to play with... after looking and reserching this would be a good one to start with... Unfortunately after my order was placed I discovered a lot of people prefer a mod cjc with a ghrp. However in my post I state I have a really crazy schedule and would have a difficult time adhering to a 3 or even 2x a day scheduling for injs.

I will go to a gh 1-29/pep but it would be a constant scheduling issue. That cannot be avoided for me. I could manage it but it cannot be an exact day to day schedule like everyone is used to.

 

[disgraziato]

silver-
You do not state your goals. True cjc-1295, which is the peptide with the drug affinity complex, is a Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone. It is effective at stimulating endo GH release, obviously, so it wouldn't be a "waste" to use it. The idea behind combining it with your choice of GHRP, is the synergy that exists, amplifying your pulse in a synergistic manner, not merely additive.GHRH depends on somatostatin leveles in the body to be low in order to be effective; obviously with cjc-1295, you'll have it circulating for days, so it'll be there when somatostatin is low and it will stimulate gh pulses. Now bear in mind that GHRP stimulates GH via a different pathway than GHRH, and is not mediated by somatostatin, and in fact inhibits somatostatin release....so....If you want more control over when your pulses are effective with your circulating cjc, or not being inhibited, then administering the GHRP too will accomplish this.

Most people say its a waste to take cjc alone or its useless...etc etc, I think because, one, they do not fully understand these peptides, but second because you really can't ignore the IMMENSE synergy that exists with gh pulsing when taken together...it dwarfs taking either one alone. Do a search, there are charts that depict various gh pulsing caused by various peptides...

 

[silverTT]

Thanks for your responses...

Here are my specs:
turning 30
5'8" 178lbs 7% bodyfat
working out/bodybuilding 12+ years
began AAS at 19yrs and used intermittently for several years. I've been AAS naive for several years now.

Basically what I'm looking for with the peptides is fat loss and decreasing stubborn areas, modestly looking to increase muscle mass and improve definition, tone and muscle quality and overall health and well being. I'm looking for that little edge that I cannot achieve with diet, training, supplementation, ect.
What also attracts me to the peptides is the relatively cheap cost, effectiveness and a side effect profile much different from that of AAS.

 

[myosin]

Couple thoughts...

This is not unbreakable or anything like that, but if I can offer a simplified and "most bang for your buck" methodology (we tend to over-complicate things sometimes... um, that "we" meaning me too )

1) Sermorelin, 1mcg/kg/dose
2) GHRP-2, 1 mcg/kg/dose

Great synergy.

BID is fine. Don't sweat it if you can't make it TID. The peptides can be drawn up in the same syringe and they'll be fine for a day. Toss it/them in your cooler and you're set.

Big Tex has probably the best log on peptides in this section... check it out.

 

[silverTT]

Thank you myosin for a straight up answer... Much appreciated..

I've been continuing to formulate ideas and cycles and I'm really excited because on the CJC alone at 3 days in and I feel great!

 

[bigz]

I am also curious. I have been trying to research peptides for fat loss but its a whole different world from AAS.

 

[Genesis Peptides]

Trial and Error

I am of the opinion that a lot of this is trial and error. bigz you are correct do not ever compare PEPS to AAS, that is like comparing a volleyball to a cardboard box. I also happen to think much of what "disgraziato" says about Peps is dead on the money, I applaud much of what he has said in the past. This is a man who speaks with knowledge and is very articulate in getting his point across, a lot of people should pay serious attention to him. I personally have ran CJC and GHRP-6 together and separately, I have also ran CJC (W/O DAC) and I happen to like it better than with (DAC). Just as I think it is better to run CJC W/GHRP-6 than GHRP-2. I believe it is all what works for the individual. Just like some people have great results w/deca while others do not. Peptides work great wonders and I have several customers in the medical community who swear by their efficacy. I also believe a lot of people on this site swear by them, otherwise they would not have a forum dedicated to them and their use. Like anything else we have done in the past we read and learn,then try and apply that knowledge to our own benefit. Protocols with peptides are very serious, you must follow them to a tee or the product(s) simply will not work, then people get disgruntled and get on these forums and say bad s***, about them. If you create your own protocol and it doesn't work there must be a reason for it........... time to go back to the drawing board and do your research all over again.

 

[bigz]

I am of the opinion that a lot of this is trial and error. bigz you are correct do not ever compare PEPS to AAS, that is like comparing a volleyball to a cardboard box. I also happen to think much of what "disgraziato" says about Peps is dead on the money, I applaud much of what he has said in the past. This is a man who speaks with knowledge and is very articulate in getting his point across, a lot of people should pay serious attention to him. I personally have ran CJC and GHRP-6 together and separately, I have also ran CJC (W/O DAC) and I happen to like it better than with (DAC). Just as I think it is better to run CJC W/GHRP-6 than GHRP-2. I believe it is all what works for the individual. Just like some people have great results w/deca while others do not. Peptides work great wonders and I have several customers in the medical community who swear by their efficacy. I also believe a lot of people on this site swear by them, otherwise they would not have a forum dedicated to them and their use. Like anything else we have done in the past we read and learn,then try and apply that knowledge to our own benefit. Protocols with peptides are very serious, you must follow them to a tee or the product(s) simply will not work, then people get disgruntled and get on these forums and say bad s***, about them. If you create your own protocol and it doesn't work there must be a reason for it........... time to go back to the drawing board and do your research all over again.

I find the research a little more difficult on peps due to the trial and error and how quickly the pep world changes. I may get burned for saying this but FROM WHAT I HAVE READ it seems the peps have less bad effects on your body then AAS. I do find the pep world to be extremely difficult to understand considering im not a premed student . Im actually doing the debate myself between hgh for troubling fat areas or cjc and GHRP6.

 

[Genesis Peptides]

CONFUSING ??

bigz I couldn't agree more with what you said about trial and error, but, do you think it's anymore confusing than let's say AAS, I don't think so. If you spend the time researching and using the power of the internet you can find out just about anything on Peps. Yes, I know that a lot of this seems to be overwhelming, but,I also agree that the statement that Peps are safer in the long run than AAS. One thing everyone must remember is that they work,but, one must exhibit patience because this is not the "MAGIC BULLET", they work but they take time to work, this isn't something like AAS where you do a 12 week cycle then your PCT, etc.etc., no rather you take your PEPS over several months and what you have is permanent results, something that will stay with you and keep on working long after you finish (i.e.IGF), which keeps on working 3-5 weeks after you are done with your cycle. By the way bigz, the combo of CJC and GHRP for 2-3 months works great for fat loss. Try it it really works well. Just be patient !! Throw in some HGH FRAG and you will see results a lot faster than with let's say T3 and Clen and it doesn't destory your endocrine system.

 

[preload]

It's all ways good to hear from someone that knows what they are talking about.

 

[Genesis Peptides]

Thanks

Thanks for the nice words Preload, haven't seen you post anything in a while hope all is good with you I read in another thread about the numbness don't worry it will pass in a small amount of time. PM me if I can help